SRM addon with Contract Management

SRM Gurus,
We are in the verge of installing SAP SRM system. Our main focus will be on :
1. SSP
2. Contract Management
3. Catalog Management
Please clarify what are the pros and cons of using SRM as ADD-on or SRM as seperate instrance.
If we can use contract management with SRM addon as a leading contract system without creating them in ECC6.0
Kaushik

The SRM AddOn is targeting on customers that are aiming on a simple procurement scenario, do not yet use mySAP SRM, are using only one Backend (ECC) system and aim to install SRM with a low TCO.
The following scenarios are released within the SRM AddOn:
Service Procurement (local deployment)
Self-Service Procurement (classic deployment)
SUS in connection with both scenarios mentioned above
Catalog Content Management
This also includes:
operational usage of contracts (e.g. for the assignment of sources of supply)
RFP - as far as known from the Temporary Labor scenario
Please be aware that the following deployment and migration constraints apply:
ERP 2005 with SRM as an add-on does not support any multiple-backend functions or hub deployment for procurement
Upgrade or migration from an existing SRM system to ERP 2005 with SRM as an add-on is not supported.
SAP does not offer migration paths from an SRM AddOn deployment to a deployment with a standalone SRM system.
The extended classic deployment is not supported.
The SRM as an add-on is only supported in the release combination ERP 6.0 and SRM 5.0. Other release combinations are not supported. Also future SRM releases will not run as an add-on on ERP 6.0
for more info
Read note 963000
and thread
SRM as an add-on to ERP 2005
BR
Dinesh

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Settings in PI
=================
For CCM scenario to work, PI set up is required for the following asynchronous enterprise services.
(Namespace; Software Component Version; Interface:)
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http://sap.com/xi/APPL/Global2; SAP APPL 6.04; PurchasingContractSRMReplicationConfirmation_Out
http://sap.com/xi/SRM/SE/Global; SRM SERVER 7.0; PurchasingContractSRMReplicationConfirmation_In
http://sap.com/xi/APPL/Global2; SAP APPL 6.04; PurchaseOrderERPContractReleaseNotification_Out
http://sap.com/xi/SRM/SE/Global; SRM SERVER 7.0; PurchaseOrderERPContractReleaseNotification_In
Settings in SAP Enterprise Portal
=================
Please refer to paragraph Settings in the Enterprise Portal in note 1263876.
Notes to be implemented
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Hi Laurent,
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