SRM Central Contract Management with Service Hierarchy
Hello Gurus !
Is it possible to use the export/import functionality (with the business function SRM_CONT_IMPR_2) for changing/adding the service hierarchies in SRM Central Contract? I see the SAP note that the hierarchies are not supported for Purchase Order.
Any idea?
Thanks in advance
Regards
Raj
Hi Raj,
it's not supported for contracts either.
Regards,
Zsofi
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i would like to have clarification with ERP and SRM release combinations regarding SRM 7.0 EhP1.
Indeed, the "Software Component Matrix for SAP SRM 7.0 EHP1", for Operational Contract Management, tells 'EHP 5 for SAP ERP 6.0 required'.
Moreover, in RKT dealing with SRM EhP1 delta overview, ERP 6.0 with EhP5 is mandatory for an upgrade to SRM7.01.
Nevertheless, i would like to have confirmation regarding this point.
We do not want to use PI to execute the Enterprise Services for CCM. So, we intend to switch BF SRM_WSRM_1 on.
But on the ERP side (EhP5), the only BF dealing with Contract Management is LOG_MM_P2PSE_2 which description is about Service Procurement (and more exactly for item hierarchies).
Does it mean we can use SRM 7.01 with ERP 6.0 EhP4 and without PI but only if we do not use Central Contracts with service hierarchies ?
Thank you for your help.
Regards.
Laurent.Hi Laurent,
Yes.
When Central contract was designed in SRM 7.0 with ERP EhP4, it was designed with no service hierarchy. But in SRM 7.01 Central contral was enhanced to handle service hierarchy and it works with ERP EhP5. The problem is when we have SRM 7.01 and ERP EhP4. To handle this complication SRM 7.01 was designed to send flat service lines to EhP4 and lower release even though Central contract in SRM has service hierarchy. So while transfering to ERP EhP4 system in standard, all outlines are not consider for transfer and only service lines (Functional items) are transferred to ERP. To do so user needs to maintain the backend destination information of the connected backend system in table BBP_BACKEND_DEST via SM30 transaction with correct system type (for EhP4 system it will be ERP_4.0 and for EhP5 ERP_5.0). SAP Standard program checks this while XML generation for transfer and if system type is ERP_4.0 system it removes all outlines from temp table before generating the XML data. When it is done, ERP has only service lines in its XML and it does the manupulation to create the replication of central contract.
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"The use of SAP NetWeaver PI is optional but it is required for outbound XML-based messaging or for connecting non-SAP planning or execution systems."
So service hierarchy is possible in SRM 7.01 and ECC 6.04 but only with PI. For other CCM functionalities, SRM 7.01 and ECC 6.04 without PI works fine.
Best regards,
Christian Zeuch -
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At our current implementation, requirement is to implement both Service procurement(with hierarchy) and Central Conract Management. I was exploring the possibility of utilizing Central Contract Management with Classic scenario.
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Thanks,
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The minimal ECC version is 6.0 EHP4, Central Contracts require certain business functions in ECC to be activated and as these are included within ECC EHP4 you won't have these available in lower version. Therefore you won't be able to operate central contracts in such an ECC system.
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I can't help you on your migration issue, maybe someone else can.
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I want to configure the newly introduced integrated Procure-to-Pay Scenario Central Contract Management.
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Then automatic PO creation if your settings for automatic PO is maintained.
In ECC 6.04 also catalog integration is possible. So for your version 6.05 there is absolutely no problem. The same OCI interface parameters have to be maintained in MM system for catalog.
Your two stage implementation is absolutely possible.
With Regards,
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SRM, MDM, ECC integration for central contract management.
Hi there,
I am questioned by a client with respect to the possibility of the following scenario -
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4. If we use MDM in the mix - will it be possible for the SRM system to act as a central contracting solution and create a central contract with the unique material code in MDM.
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http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nwmdm71/helpdata/en/43/D7AED5058201B4E10000000A11466F/frameset.htm
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I never tried service . but you can see this below symptom for you.I extensively worked on Material contracts.
Are you creating contract from Process contract or Via RFQ
Note 1272305 - Total value wrongly calculated in Contract Service lines
Symptom
We create a Service contract in the R/3 Backend from RFQ. During the transfer we calculate the gross price based on the quantity,price and price unit. (ie) The field ESLL-BRTWR is filled with following formula in the idoc processing. ls_e1edc20-BRTWR
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till PI values are brought correctly till posting to ECC. ?
Note 1123292 - Net Price wrongly calculated in plug-in MAP_BLAORD_SERVICES
my experience in GOA
Note:-
2 set stream of DATA comes from SRM as BLOARD and COND_A ..
Even some times when we reprocess failed IDOCS in BD87 in ECC ( comes contract data from SRM as GOA and failed due to some data validation in ECC). now data issue was fixed at Material master level. and
if we forget to reprocess COND_A - BLOARD creates a successfull GOA but net price shows as ZERO for each material and when you post the COND_A data and correct price will be updated in ECC contract. so kindly check price data reaches or not not or price calculation failed in ECC.
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