SRM standalone and extended classic

Hi Experts,
Configuration: ECC 6.0 (with Ehp4 installed - (not activated)
SRM 7.0
Just want to seek confirmation of my understanding re: SRM implementation scenarios. Is it possible to have a extended classic and standalone setup using the same SRM server with same client? Both will have the same product categories. These will be for two separate entities/companies.
Thanks in advance.
Regards.

Hi Mike,
How did you end up solving your problem, as i have the same scenario. Did you use this BADI (
SRM Server->Business Add-Ins->Control Extended Classic Scenario->Activate Extended Classic Scenario)? Based on my reading, it seems this BADI is relevant to switch between extended classic and classic scenarios.
From what i understand, we can control the standalone scenario via the define backend system configuration (SAP SRM -> SRM Server -> Technical Basic Settings -> Define Backend System for Product Category). In your scenario, you have one set of product categories, just like mine, so i assume you had to implement this BADI (BBP_DETERMINE_LOGSYS, method: DETERMINE_LOGSYS - SAP SRM -> SRM Server -> Business Add-Ins ->Shopping Carts and Requirement Items -> Determine Backend System / Company Code) in order to determine the correct backend system based on company/plant for example.
Did you then leave the extended classic scenario activated *
MG --> Supplier Relationship Management -> SRM Server-> Cross-Application Basic Settings->
Activate Extended Classic Scenario)?
Or how did you achieve both standalone and extended classic using one SRM server?
cheers,
AD

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AD

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Currently we are preparing the system to change the technical scenario from standalone to extended classic (SRM 4.0)
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Someone has already done this kind of scenario switch?
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Regards.

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Before talking about de-activating ECS or not in this BADI, this scenario must first be activated.
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PS: be aware that in ECS scenario you will no longer be able to create PR or reservations in R/3.
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Classic Scenanio and Extended Classic Scenario
Extended Classic vs Standalone
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I need your help again........:-)
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Points will be rewarded
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Hi Sam,
(explaination frm a previous thread)
Difference between scenarios
WIth classic scenario, the SC following document is to be created in your R/3 backend(s). Thus you can get an PO, a PR or a stock reservation in R/3.
With extended classic the following document is to be found in SRM itself. Thus from a SC item you can get a complete PO, an incomplete PO or depending on your customizing a Sourcing cockpit (now called Sourcing Application) requirement. Additional FM are called when you tick the box "Enable Extended classic" in the IMG activity, enabling you to get a local PD.
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http://help.sap.com/saphelp_srm40/helpdata/en/e9/d0fc3729b5db48e10000009b38f842/content.htm
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IS

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Raju,
Basically you have few points to keep in mind. (yes you need to activate the SPRO config for extended classic, apart from this).
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Hi,
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