SRM & SUS in Classic scenario

Hello SRM Gurus,
I would be great if you could give your overview for below my quires.
I have good idea of SRM with SUS for extended classic scenario. But how would be the communication between SRM and SUS in Classic scenario. Because the PO will be created in backend.
Now my question is in Classic scenario,
What is the use of SUS in classic scenario?
How the PO will be transfer to SUS system? Does the PO data from SRM or ECC?
What is the communication data between SRM and SUS?
Kindly provide me above information and also your thoughts.
Thanks.
Regards,
Magesh.

Hi Mahesh,
If you are using SRM7.0 & ECC EHP4 version with classic scenario then you can user configuration gudie "Plan-Driven Procurement with Supplier Integration: Configuration Guide" (Release SRM4.0).
But following keys points are to be noted for SRM7.0:
1. "PO" and "service entry confirmation" will be handled using XML messages.
2. To send PO's using XML messages to SUS from ECC activate the workflow in SWETYPV transaction by falging "Linkage activated" for object BUS2012(CHANGED & CREATED) for workflow ws3800008.
3. take the help of PI consulatant to enalbed the PI messages to send PO and Serivce confiramtion bewtween SUS and ECC.
ERP     PurchaseOrderERPRequest_out_V1                          PurchaseOrderERPRequest_In_V1                         SRM
SRM     PurchaseOrderERPConfirmation_Out_V1     PurchaseOrderERPConfirmation_In_V1                         ERP
SRM     ServiceAcknowledgementERPCreateRequest_Out     ServiceAcknowledgementERPCreateRequest_In     ERP
ERP     ServiceAcknowledgementERPConfirmation_Out     ServiceAcknowledgementERPConfirmation_In     SRM
ERP               ServiceAcknowledgementERPCancellationNotification_Out                                                                                    ServiceAcknowledgementERPCancellationNotification_In     SRM
With Regards
Manjunath

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