SRM two Envelope Bidding

Does anyone knows whether we can open both Technical and Pricing envelope in one Open Date and Time instead of approving Technical Document first and then open Pricing envelope.
In a nutshell, we are using SRM 7.0 with PPS add on and like to use two envelope bidding, but does not want to approve technical first to see the price. We want to open both at same time and date. Please help.
Thanks
Anita

Hi Anita
SRM PPS module's one of majaor advantage is Two Envelope Tenders where we can oen the technical bid first, analyse & only for technically accepted bids the Price/commercial bid will be opened.
If you don't want to use this functionality than you have the option to create a SIngle BID where the vendor will quote both technical & commercial details.
Both above described cases are SRM standard functionalities available in SRM 7.0 only.
Choice is your's. I hope I was able to address your querry.
Sandip

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I have activated business function SRM_Sourcing_1 and activated other RFx related config.
Kindly let me know all other config's that are required.
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Hello Satish,
Please find the configuration guide for the same
https://websmp102.sap-ag.de/srm-inst
Select SAP SRM Server 7.01 - Configuration Guides for SAP SRM Ehp1 - SAP SRM 7.0 EHP1: Strategic Sourcing
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Hope it solves.
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Two envelope bidding is available in SRM PPS and also in SRM 7 ehp1.
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Hi Abdul,
You can use the Two Envelop bidding directly in 7.01 by activating the business function - SRM_SOURCING_1. This will create new node in customizing - Extended RFx.
For PPS the customer needs to buy a license. You can go through the help link below to see if PPS has anything extra to offer based on your requirement that can't be fulfilled otherwise.
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_srm70/helpdata/en/f9/ae4af0294b42f6855ac6da552ceb93/frameset.htm
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Hello ,
We are on SRM 7 EHP1 .
Netweaver Portal Version 7.3
We are trying to implement Two envelope bidding
I have a purchaser role and when i try to create a two envelope Rfx, I am able to open.
After the Rfx gets opened , when i click on Technical Rfx , i was getting an error like No Iview available for system SAP_SRM object "TechResp".
I consulted my portal consultant and he replaced my SRM 7 Strategic Purchaser with SRM 7 Ehp1 Strategic purchaser
Now when i click on Technical Rfx , the error is not repeating but a blank screen appears.
I have followed all the configuration given in the below
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_srm701/helpdata/en/a7/ea98848f574388ab21778ddb306c4b/frameset.htm
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Aditya

Thanks Sam for your inputs but i have already made all the settings mentioned in the cfolder settings link that you shared.
I wanted to check if there are any more cfolder settings which needs to be taken care apart from what is mentioned in the link.
Just to give you more information , our cfolders is defined in the SRM system itself. So i have created an RFC which points to SRM itself and leaving the user name and pwd blank in the Logon data tab of RFC connection but for point no. 3 where it is mentioned that RFC user must be given the SAP_CFX_USER role , since i have no RFC user , I couldnt assign any roles.
Is this correct ?
And in the config step , Basic data for Technical RFX Response folders , where the default five folders related to two envelope bidding are listed, these should get created as soon as the Purchaser clicks on Technical rfx as per the help.sap documentation but in my case , it is not redirecting to the Cfolder collaboration room.
Want to also check that in Portal, are there any Cfolder roles or any other role which needs to be given to the Purchaser ?
To summarize the steps i have done till now.
1. Have performed the two envelope bidding config steps mentioned below.
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_srm701/helpdata/en/a7/ea98848f574388ab21778ddb306c4b/frameset.htm
2. Have performed the Cfolder settings mentioned in the below link
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_srm70/helpdata/en/43/143d2e25fc2be8e10000000a1553f7/content.htm
3. In SRM GUI,
Have assigned Purchaser with
a.Strategic Purchaser EHP1 role
b. SAP_CFX_USER
c. SAP_CFX_ADMINSTRATOR
In Portal , have assigned Purchaser with
a. Strategic Purchaser EHP1 role
And Hi Lalit, Good to hear from you. Thanks for your inputs . Your points 1 and 3 have already been taken care.
I tried adding the Cfolder link to the ITS_DEST but it didnt help. Can you help me with any more pointers.
Thanks
Aditya

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Hi friends,
We are using SRM 7.0 with PPS. I have configured cFolder for Two Part Bidding. I am facing problems for Opening Technical Bid. Before opening date and time I am able to access files attached by vendor through cFolder. Is there any provision to give Opening date and time in cFolder. Am I missing any configurations?
Please suggest me.
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PERSISTED, and what I know also is that if we want to convert a function to deterministic we have to add
WITH SCHEMABINDING in
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WITH SCHEMABINDING ?
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PERSISTED without its functions to be deterministic ?

Cfolder in two envelope rfx

Dear SAP SRM Guru's,
I want to ask about cfolder in two envelope process, i configured cfolder base on sap help, and what i read in SCN
The process that i understand are:
1. Purchaser with role SAP_CFX_USER and SAP_CFX_COMP_CREATOR, create RFX, automatically a in cfolder system will create a folder called a technical details in collaborative scenario,
- My question are : can we automatically change the name of the folder? or we have to change it manually?
2. after the rfx publish, the bidder with role SAP_CFX_USER will create the technical rfx response, the cfolder system will automaticallly create a folder in the technical detail folder created by the purchaser, the folder will be name based on username bidder, maybe the structure will be like below
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My problem for this process are :
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- may next problem is when i have two bidder, the bidder can see other bidder folder, is it the behaviour or there something i miss?
can someone help me?

Hello Aditya,
         Answering your questions one by one...
1. Can we change the Folder name "Technical Details"?
          Yes , we can. This is set via the code in class /SAPPSSRM/CL_TECHBID_CFOLDER method /SAPPSSRM/IF_TECHBID_CFOLDER~CREATE_BI. In this there is a call
CALL FUNCTION '/SAPPSSRM/META_CREATE_COLLAB'
     EXPORTING
       i_folder_name      = /sappssrm/if_tendering_const=>gc_cfx_name
     IMPORTING
       e_faultstring      = lv_cfx_faultstring
       e_collaboration_id = e_collaboration_id
       e_public_area_id   = e_public_area_id
       e_root_folder_id          = e_root_folder_id
     EXCEPTIONS
       no_logical_system_defined = 1
       OTHERS                    = 2.
The constant /sappssrm/if_tendering_const=>gc_cfx_name is the "Technical Details" is the name and you can change the name by performing the enhancements here.
2. Do you need administrator to provide access to folders for bidder?
      No certainly not required. Generally at RFX Response creation system will provide read/write authorizations to the bidders for specific folders. This is handled in the code and you would not require an Administrator intervention here.
3. Bidder having access to other folders?
    This is a result of your manual assignment. The standard code ensures none of this happens.
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Veera

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We have PPS process, while creating of PO for the accepted BID, PO is saved with following error,
Line 1: Grant 5612100020 does not exist
when i go through the threads in SDN, it is mentioned we need to activate Grants in R3 system.
1, Is it necessary to activate the Grants in R3?,
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Two-envelope

Hi guys
I would like to know if SRM7.0 standard has this option, or i have to activate Procurement for Public Sector Functions (SRM_PPS). If i activate this option, i will have troubles with no Public sector companies? After activate this function the system will show some special field mandatory only for public sector companies ?
Can i use this function to other kind of business or only for Public Sector companies?
Forgive me my bad english.
Best regards.
Edited by: Ataide on Mar 8, 2012 2:33 AM

Hi,
I would like to know if SRM7.0 standard has this option, or i have to activate Procurement for Public Sector Functions (SRM_PPS)
->You have to activate PPS Function.
If i activate this option, i will have troubles with no Public sector companies?
->No you will not have any problem with SRM basic functionality. PPS will just offer you additional functionalities.
Can i use this function to other kind of business or only for Public Sector companies?
->It depends upon requirement. You can use the way you like. But as name states these are special features provided in SRM.
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yaniVy
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1) Is there a Database instances?
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SRM error 'process time remaining' for Rfx

The simultaneous opening of the RFxs were performed. But it was not possible to open the offers as the system was showing ' process time remaining'. At that time the times remaining for the 3 RFxs was shown around 4 hours 30 minutes. The offers were tried to open next day. Again the system was showing ' process time remaining', but the time remaining for the 3 RFxs are shown about 2 hours .Please suggest .

Hi Srvinivas,
The following documents may be of some help to you:
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_srm701/helpdata/en/38/37aa392d61407089454548b98355a8/content.htm
SRM, Strategic Sourcing Innovations
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_srm701/helpdata/en/1f/4b5f5130eb4c7db21f03fa94e5bb3f/content.htm
Tender Fee Processing
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_srm702/helpdata/EN/73/bf0af1223b405d8380cd2dfc9e5fd3/content.htm
Earnest Money Deposit Processing
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_srm702/helpdata/EN/ef/fab812e046468396262858d447d8aa/content.htm
Simultaneous Logon at RFx Response Opening
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_srm702/helpdata/EN/38/37aa392d61407089454548b98355a8/content.htm
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Two-Envelope response opening process:
01. Buyer creates a RFx/Bid invitation with the transaction type that
    is configured for two envelope bidding.
02. Enter the mandatory datas: submission deadline, bidders, items,
    permissions for technical/price/tender fee opening, etc
03. Publish RFx.
04. Login with bidder and "Participate" to receive emails.
05. If tender fee is requested, then pay tender fee with bidder user.
06. Create a Response with bidder user and submit.
07. Now you have to wait till the submission deadline has been passed
    to give the chance for the other bidders to participate in the RFx
    process.
08. After the submission deadline has been passed the buyer has to
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09. A new window will pop up to start the simultaneous logon.
10. Provide password and hit the approve button.
11. The pop up window will display Technical Opener's name.
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12. In the next step, we will have to login to perform the technical
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13. To perform technical opening:
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16. In the next step you will receive a message:
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17. The Simultaneous Logon and opening of technical/price RFx response
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18. Hit on Close button to close the pop up.
19. Hit on Close to close the RFx screen.
20. You have to wait till the Response opening time has been passed.
21. After the time has been passed the Response can be opened.
If the document changes in the meantime and if it needs approval (no
automatic approval is configured) then you have approve the documents
in the process with a given user.
I hope that this helps.
Kind regards,
Conor

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So that, no need to go for PPS
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https://websmp208.sap-ag.de/~form/sapnet?_SHORTKEY=01100035870000730474&_SCENARIO=01100035870000000202&
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