Srvctl vs startup command in RAC

Hi,
pls clarify some doubts about srvctl /startup?
1,What is the difference between startup and srvctl in rac.what is the advantage of srvctl over startup.
2,How to start the database( From CRS to DB instance) in rac by traditional method ( startup command).
3,I read the oracledocumentation "http://download.oracle.com/docs/cd/B19306_01/rac.102/b14197/srvctladmin.htm"
which says only command descriptions.but i need what actually happening while executing the command?
4,The executions are same compare with traditional method or not?
Thanks & Regards,

Hi,
1,What is the difference between startup and srvctl in rac.what is the advantage of srvctl over startup.
- SRVCTL is cluster aware so you can control database instances for any node in the cluster, which is something you can not do manually. Consider policy based cluster databases in 11gR2, managing databases manually will not be easy.
2,How to start the database( From CRS to DB instance) in rac by traditional method ( startup command).
- Can you elaborate on your question? If your question is to start database manually then its exactly same as of single instance database OR do you want to start the database using cluster control utility (CRSCTL)?
3,I read the oracledocumentation "http://download.oracle.com/docs/cd/B19306_01/rac.102/b14197/srvctladmin.htm"
which says only command descriptions.but i need what actually happening while executing the command?
- SRVCTL pass on request to Oracle Cluster ware, which checks for the dependencies and start the corresponding database resources. I guess internally it use the same OCI calls that SQL*Plus use to start the database.
4,The executions are same compare with traditional method or not?
- With SRVCTL, it checks for the dependencies such as asm and listener resources and start them where as manual method will fail startup and throw some relevant errors.
Thanks & Regards,
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