SS32 and AA3

Hello,
We recently purchased Adobe Audition 3 and quickly found an issue regarding files in Scott Systems 32 V5. With AA 1.5 we were able to edit & save audio to the SS32 folder tree without loosing any metadata. Now with AA 3 the file becomes corrupt when it is formatted back to SS32.
I know that WideOrbit created a plug in for AA3 to work with WO Automation. They do not seem to have a similar tool for SS32. Does anyone know of an available plug in, or solution to this issue?
Thank you.

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Shutting down. To continue where you left off, you must restart Audition. And I select "OK" Now I get "Microsoft Visual C++ Runtime Library. R6025 pure virtual function call" message. I can't get into Audition to undo what I've done.
Some sessions are unreplaceable.
I understand some kind of corrupted registry file or something like that.
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My comp. guru fixed it in about 10 minutes. I had a bad file. It was deleated and automatically put back correctly. Works fine now.
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 15:55:10 -0600
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: 3.0 Running in Circles - Can't access
Hi Donnie,
Do you recall the precise last steps you took before Audition stopped working? Did it crash and start giving this error when you launched it again, or did this just occur at random after working fine the previous time?
How far does the start-up process get before you receive this error? Do you see the Audition splash screen? Does it begin to show the UI before crashing? Have you already installed the Audition 3.01 update patch?
My first suggestion would be to wipe the application preferences and try launching it again. To do this, rename the following "3.0" folder to "3.0.BAK" and then launch Audition
XP: C:\Document and Settings\<your username>\Application Data\Adobe\Audition\3.0\
Vista/Win7: C:\Users\<your username>\AppData\Roaming\Adobe\Audition\3.0\
Renaming the folder instead of deleting it will retain your previous preferences and effects presets in case this is not the problem.
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Pk files no longer being drawn

Hello,
First time poster here. I tried to read as many posts as possible about my issue, but unfortunately, I didn't see anything that might help me out.
I recently noticed last night that each time I would import a stereo wave file in AA3, it would take the normal time it takes when drawing the wave form for the first time. I usually do not delete pk files until I'm done with a project. Each time I bring the same wave file back in, it does the same thing like when you import something for the first time. I looked in my wave folder where these waves reside and normally, there are a bunch of pk files that of course can be safely deleted I know. But not this time. There isn't a single one there and it appears AA3 is no longer drawing them.
This has also brought on another issue and that is, applying more than 2 effects. I was mastering a stereo wave file at 24/48 (32 bit float, ASIO, Layla 24/96 soundcard on Win xp pro, 3 gig RAM dual core 3.2) and noticed on my 3rd application of an effect, there was no status bar showing the time it takes for the effect to be applied. The effect processed instantly, but the wave form never changed character. When going up to undo, that effect was not applied to it couldn't be undone. Yet, if I click on "repeat last command" or effect right under it, the effect I attempted to process does in fact load up. It just will not process by clicking "ok". It is working in preview mode. I exited out of the project, reloaded it and this was when I first noticed it was redrawing the wave like it does on a first import. Looked in the wave folder and no pk files.
I attempted just try the one effect that wasn't processing in the last session, and sure enough, it worked perfectly so it's not the effect itself. It seems I get 2 effect applications and AA3 will no longer process my effects to the wave destructively. This is all in edit mode by the way.
Does anyone have any ideas or suggestions for me? I have done a rescan of all my plugs and have disabled those that will not run in AA3. I think I've done as much as I can do on this end without the help of you guys. :) Any help or advice would be grately appreciated...thanks in advance. :)
Danny

Thanks for the quick reply guys. simple, I do have it set for that and have never had this problem before. This is where I think something may not be right somewhere. Anytime I bring a file into Audition, it cache's the wave form and never draws it again unless I make a change in another program upon exporting out of Audition. For example, sometimes I master using a few tools in Audition and then save the file and do all my conversion and dithering using Wave Lab 6. I save the WL6 file with a new name. If I bring that file into Audition, it will of course cache another wave form. But anytime (and honest, I've been using Audition and CEP for many years) I have ever brought a file in, it auto draws and leaves that draw everytime I load up that file with no additional caching. Now days, it will draw the wave form everytime that wave is opened no matter what bit or sample it is. Do you understand what I mean? I very well could not be explaining this right and if I'm not please forgive me.
I'll try once more in case I'm just confusing the heck out of you guys. LOL! Please bear with me and thanks for your patience. :)
I open the program, import a wave, it scans it and the wave appears. This is the only time it should do this to this particular wave file....at least in my experience. If I close all, shut down AA3 and reopen it and bring that exact same wave back in, it should not be scanning and redrawing the wave file if the file has not been altered in another program, correct?
This is the way it has always worked for me. Open once, it draws and each time I open that same file, it should never scan again. It is scanning every time on the same file and there are no pk files anywhere. I always get pk files when I import a 24 or a 32 on my end because I constantly remove them after I'm done with a project. I always have a 24 and a 16 after I'm done converting sample and bit rates. So there are always 2 pk files for every tune I master. Now days, my folder is completely empty...and I am still having that effect processing error to where 0 processing takes place after about 3 effects are processed. I do them one at a time, not all at the same time.
I get no status bar showing the effect being processed nor does the wave form change in appearance after the effect is applied. This started happening when I noticed a constant redraw everytime a file is opened so I thought it may have something to do with my problem. Hope I'm explaining it a bit better. Thanks for your time and patience. :)
Danny

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Everything you need to know about using M/S techniques in mastering can be found in the iZotope Ozone Mastering Guide. And there are no such things as generic steps in mastering - each track is treated on its individual merits.
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Transferred activation, before replacing Failing Disk,

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AA3 library of audio clips and saving session

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John Alcock wrote:
Is your Saffire recognized by Audio/MIDI set up (in your Utilities folder)?
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i need help,
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