SSD Models in T440/T440s

What are the SSD models used in T440/T440s? I see that the options are:
128GB SSD
180GB SSD Opal
256GB SSD eDrive
240GB SSD Opal
512GB SSD
I would appreciate if someone could list specific Makes/Models for each SSD option.
Also it would be good to hear any sugestions about DIY SSD upgrades that might be better (more functional or better value).
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You can find the info you need here:
T440s BOM
Note that the drives are largely OEM versions so you may not recognise the models. Liteon = Plextor and PM841 = Samsung 840 TLC. The 'Sierra Star' Intels are Pro 1500s

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SSD Specifications for T440s

I'm looking to purchase a laptop be use during travel as a consultant. I am interested in the T440s. However, I am finding it difficult to ascertain the specifics of the SSD drives offered.
I can find different model numbers, but I cannotr find a page where it list the options, brands and speeds of the SSD's so I may make an informed decision.
Any help would be appreciated.
For what it's worth, I am considering the 256gb or 240gb options.
I would also consider going with the stock 128 and purchasing a better, faster ssd (like an 850 Evo Pro) if that made better financial sense and was indeed doable.
Thank you,
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Specs for storage.
Pro Tip: use the Support page for finding stuff.
A 7mm 2.5" drive, which is the Samsung, will fit. SATAIII is SATAIII; it specs a standardized connector.
The RAM is DDR3 1600. It's probably Class 11 on the system board. I think any discussion I've ever read here regarding RAM from the factory in the T44x family has shown the RAM to be Cl 11, so I'd just look for that. Mixing speeds is never a given. A Class 9 stick might work, but I'd go with 11 to be safe. Performance difference will be neglible.
If you don't have an external USB enclosure you can use for cloning, then you should buy the kit model of the SSD which includes one.
You can use Magician. It mostly works. I've had issues with it, which is why I recommended Macrium Reflect. You can Google about that one.

T420 160GB SSD model ?

Is it true that the Intel 160GB SSD offered in T420 custom builds is still the older X25 model? Or is it now the 320 series? I cannot seem to find a definitive answer anywhere.
I would like a 320 series SSD and if Lenovo is not offering them yet then can someone tell me which specific model of that drive I need to buy and whether any additional rails etc are needed to swap out the stock 320GB/7200 HDD? I also want to confirm the T420 will be able to utilize a SATA III SSD (6Gb/s) should I feel the need for speed.
Is this the correct intel 320 version: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/796963-REG/Intel_SSDSA2CW160G3K5_160GB_SSD_320_Series.html

There had been rumors that Lenovo was testing the 320 series. I have not seen anything official that the 320 passed Lenovo validation. The T420 can use a SATA III connection. I added the Intel 320 16GB SSD into my machine aftermarket. My machine shipped with a 9.5mm 500GB HDD (bought during a free upgrade special, I now use the drive for backups) so I bought the normal 9mm height 320 to put into the machine. The 320 drive fit perfectly.
Lenovo seems to ship some T420 with 9.5mm HDD and some with 7mm HDD. You will probably want to wait until you have your machine in hand or ask the your rep what height you will have. If you get a 7mm HDD then you would need different rails to fit a 9.5mm SSD. I imagine Lenvo only buys only the 7mm SSDs and uses different rails to fit them into machines as needed. You are better off with the aftermarket 320 as it has a 5 year warranty. I recommend following Lenovo's procedure & creating the system restore disks and then using those to install from. My machine boots faster that way compared to cloning with Intel's cloning tool (rebranded Arconis).
If I were you, I would very careful with the Intel 320 SSD. Some of them have an issue called the 8MB bug. Intel is "aware of the issue;" however, they are otherwise silent on a possible fix or cure. The bug often occurs after "unsafe shutdowns" (holding in the power button, BSOD sudden reboots, and other power issues. The bug causes the SSD to loose all of your data and show up as 8MB to the operating system. A secure erase sometimes makes the drive usable again, but, of course, it is erased so you have lost all the data. My first 320 died within the first day. I am now at about the one week mark with 320 #2. If you want more details see here: http://communities.intel.com/thread/22227?start=0&tstart=0 .
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Should I purchase the SSD model?

I have decided that the Macbook Air meets my needs but am wondering if the extra $300 for the faster processing speed and the SSD is worth it. The one advantage that seems obvious is having no moving parts. I also hear that the SSD is faster reading, but slower writing. I am interested in people's comments, especially those who went for the SSD.
John

When the first Air came out I purchased the HDD. It was so slow I returned it and forked over the extra for the SSD. I have upgraded since then but the SSD was worth every penny. I know benchmark tests will show you numbers but my wife has a one generation-removed 15" MacBook Pro. She used my Air the other day to access a website and remarked on how "slow" her computer is. I am very happy with the Air and the SSD. It is fast and quiet. If you can afford the extra it is worth it as the SSd Air seems much faster than the HDD.

Security update for Bios 2.29 for T440 / T440s - what was the vulnerability?

Hi,
Can someone please share what the security vulnerability was for yesterday's bios?
Version 2.29
UEFI: 2.29 / ECP: 1.09
(Fix) Fixed security vulnerability.
(Fix) Fixed an issue that HDD partition data might not be captured by some UEFI application.

Thanks for the input however I disagree. All security exploits should be exposed except under certain conditions. Reading below, I do not believe it meets these conditions. This is what I found. I would like to know what has been changed in case a security flaw affected my data etc. To me it looks like they just don't want rollbacks of firmware as there was a security flaw in a previous firmware?
- If the UEFI BIOS has been updated to version 2.29 or higher, it is no longer
able to roll back to the version before 2.29 for security improvement.

T440s is killing Samsung 840 pro SSD's

Hi all,
I have a new T440s, bought with HDD. As I wanted to use a reliable SSD, I bought a Samsung 840 pro, which I already have running in another system. This is when the problems started. In a German Forum several users report similar problems, so I just wanted to provide a summary here, so that maybe the international community can help. I consider myself as an experienced user, have built various PC systems over the past years and have currently a desktop system running with Samsung 840 pro. Here are the details:
I have installed Windows 8.1 (various times, first clone from HDD and later after recurring problems, complete clean install from Win 8.1 DVD), Bios set to UEFI only + Intel Rapid Start disabled before installation.
The issue is now that with the SSD I am getting constant HDD errors (visible in EventViewer), so that usually after a few hours of operation the OS gets damaged to the point that it cannot boot any more. I should mention that the same system is running stable with the original HDD. First I thought it is a defective SSD and I got it replaced by Samsung. However, with the replaced new SSD I am facing the same issues. Earlier this year I fixed a problem on a desktop PC with 840 pro where the symptoms looked similar. In case of the desktop system, the issue could be fixed by replacing the SATA cable (which is obviously not an option on the T440s).
And yes, I am using the latest SSD firmware, BIOS update, Lenovo drivers. Now, the issue is that I do not seem to be the only one with these problems. Other users in a German Thinkpad forum report similar problems and not only on Windows systems but also on Linux installations (one even got the mainboard replaced by Lenovo and it still did not solve the problem).
I contacted Lenovo support and they replied that they are only supporting original Lenovo SSD's. I must say that I am really disapointed that my brand new system from a renowned manufacturer consistently does not work with one of the most widely used SSD's. Currently, some users in the German forum report that they are having more luck with Samsung EVO SSDs. However, after this experience, I really lost confidence in the T440s. If the design should have problems with Sata 3, I don't know if I can trust this notebook in a business environment.
Any comments/suggestions highly welcome.
Regards,
Frank
PS: Here is a reference (of at least two other users reporting this issue in this forum here, in German though)
http://forums.lenovo.com/t5/T4-T5-und-neuere-T-Serie/Lenovo-T440s-Samsung-840-pro/m-p/1297091#M1562
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First of all (In the US at least), there are up to 5 different OEM SSD drives to choose from (depending on what base model is selected), with what in addition looks like 3 different variations (regular?, OPAL and edrive).
Hard drive
128 GB Solid State Drive, Serial ATA3[subtract $150.00]
180GB Solid State Drive, Serial ATA3 Opal[subtract $50.00]
256 GB Solid State Drive, Serial ATA3 eDrive Capable
240GB Solid State Drive, Serial ATA3 Opal[add $50.00]
512GB Solid State Drive SATA3[add $250.00]
When I was researching SSD drives for the T440s a month ago, I came across the following, although I do not know the accuracy of the information:
Does anyone know the difference between these two drive options:
256 GB Solid State Drive, Serial ATA3 eDrive Capable
240GB Solid State Drive, Serial ATA3 Opal [add $50.00]
The 240GB is an Intel Pro 1500 and the 256GB are either Liteon (Plextor) M6S or Samsung PM841 TLC Drives (OEM 840s).

T440s has anyone else remapped their keys?

I missed having my page up and down by the top right. Especially in bed. So what I did was UNMAP the F11 and F12 keys since you can easily use these with two locations for page up and page down (delete and insert) and the normal default page up and down by the up down left right cusors. Anyone else remap?
Also since I'm a new user, what is the 16gb of ssd space on the t440s? Anything to worry about if I were installing a new Windows copy?

http://download.lenovo.com/ibmdl/pub/pc/pccbbs/mobiles_pdf/t440s_hmm_en_sp40a25360_01.pdf
Page 67 (PDF page number): It's supposedly next to the WLAN card. Shouldn't have antennas plugged in though.
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T440 dissapointment

Hi all,
We have been loyal Lenovo customers for many years. We have T400, T410, T420, and T430 all floating around our enterprise. We just bought our first T440, and I (wrongfully) assumed it would be similar to those models. I've had the laptop for 24 hours now, and am pretty dissapointed.
No optical drive standard.
Only 1 Dimm slot
8 screws to get at RAM/Hard drive, as opposed to 1 on the older models.
Touchpad feels cheap. I can see they were trying to mimic the Macbook, but it just doesn't feel good.
Overall build quality just feels bad compared to older models.
New, seemlingy proprietary power cable.
This laptop cost over $1000. It looks like maybe the 440p is more in line with the older models. Can anyone confirm that you don't have to remove 8 screws to get at the RAM? And maybe just a comment on how similar it is to the older T series models I listed.
If not the 440p, does anyone have a recommendation on a laptop model (very) similar to the 410-430?
Thank you.
- Jon
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Hello.
Yes, same for me, the change for the basic T4x0 model over to a T440 UltraBook design was a bit perplexing to me at first, but it was well explained on the Tx40 options when I first started rummaging through them.
Now, I got both a T440p (my current main workstation out in the field), which relieved my trusty W520, but I didn't like the full size keyboard on the T/W540 models. A matter of taste, plain and simple. And I've got a T440s for lighter tasks, but that is the higher end model of the T440. So here to answer your points:
1. Nope, that is pretty much an Ultrabook standard. The T440p is your friend there.
2. The T440 and T440s have 4GB RAM soldered onto the planar with 1 slot for additional 8GB and max 12GB RAM.
3. Yes, it's inconvenient.
4. The ClickPad is liked by some, loathed by others. I disabled it in my T440's at first, but through the last driver and utility updates, it's become very useful, specially through the Win8 gesture config. I do prefer the legacy button setup though.
5. I'm on the border on this, I don't think they feel cheap, specially not the T440p, it's just as massive and durable as my earlier ThinkPads, but the T440s (and T440) are thinner and perhaps give the impression of poorer build quality, but I can assure you, after traveling with my T440s out in the field, it's a very sturdy and reliable machine.
6. Yes, another inconvenience, but you can get a small converter from the older barrel adapter jacks to the new square shaped ones.
On the T440p, you just remove 2 screws to remove the "big door", which is basically the whole base panel, which gives you access to all CRU modules, and the 2 slots are positioned in the middle of the machine.
I have mine configured to full 16GB RAM, a 250GB Samsung Evo as my main drive and a 1TB platter drive in a ultrabay caddy instead of the DVD drive, but I removed the locking screw to be able to hotswap these without removing the base plate.
As for recommendation, the T440's are really good machines, true to the ThinkPad legacy albeit the much debated changes, but there are 3 models that suit different tasks. I can't praise my T440p enough, it's the most powerful 14" machine I've ever used and there's nothing I can't do on it.
Cheers!
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ThinkPad W520 (4282-W4Q) - i7-2720QM/32GB // ThinkPad T400 (2767-W1C) - P9500/8GB
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SSD in Power Mac G5 modell 11.2 and 7.3

Hi,
I have two PM G5, one modell 11.2 (dual 2,3 GHz CPUl) and one 7,3 (dual 2,0 GHz CPU) that I wish to speed up by installing an SSD HD but there are many variations of SSD, does anyone have a SSD (240 GB) who can be recomended for use in the PM G5? Is it "plug an play" or does one need an 2,5" to 3,5" adapter to the HD bay?

Hello, you need an adapter, but also need one that is SATA 1.5 Gb/s compatable...
Here's one...
http://eshop.macsales.com/item/OWC/SSDEX3G240/
This OWC SSD Model is compatible with nearly any Mac or PC model with a Serial ATA connection (SATA, SATA 2.0, or SATA 3.0) including:
All Mac Pro models
All PowerMac G5 models
All MacBook Pro models
All Mac mini 2006-Current (All Intel Models)
iMac 2006-current (All Intel Models)
iMac G5
All MacBook models
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X240: SSD eDrive password

<->We recently purchased several X240 laptops with the SSD eDrives installed but are having problems setting up the hard drive password. Before this we had 50+ thinkpads with the Opal FDEs and so would go in the BIOS and set the hard drive passwords. On these new drives there is nothing in the BIOS about a hard drive password and so far after 4 or 5 calls to Lenovo I still do not have an answer about how to do it. The technical support there do not seem to know anything about these drives. One of them told me it was "beyond their scope." Cn anyone help me with this problem?
Moderator note: moved thread to correct board and edited subject to reflect content. Was: SSD Models in T440/T440s

Hi cgalaske!
SSD's in eDrive mode are not compatible with BIOS ATA security.
Hope this helps!
I don't work for Lenovo. I'm a crazy volunteer!

Help with choosing the right lenovo laptop model

Hello All,
I am in the process of replacing my old Lenovo w520 with one of these laptop models :-
i) Lenovo T440
ii) Lenovo X1 Carbon
iii) Lenovo W540
Which one of the above 3 models is the best ? What are the known problems with any of these models?
My primary requirement is to have higher data storage capacity , Good processing power and a good sound card.
Let me know which of the models is the best .
Regards,
Vir

Go20 wrote:
Thank you for your advise but how can I get very good quality on DVD then.
as long as your project is <60min, iDVD will create best quality technically possible (=using the highest bit-rate, 9MBit/s) standards allow .
it is not a prob of the tool, but the standards. your source is 1920x1080, a DVD can contain only 720x480 ..
if you want 'higher' delivery-quality, consider BluRay (hmmm?) or a MediaPlayer (AppleTV, WD TV, PS3, .. )

Should I keep my MacBook Pro or exchange it for more Ram and SSD space?

Hello,
I decided to purchase a MacBook Pro 15 inch with Retina display. I thought I would just bite the bullet and get it with the upgraded 16gb Ram and 512 SSD as I want this computer to last me at least 5 years. I don't know exactly what I will be using it for but potentially I will be running a small business with it as well as using it for photos, some videos and all the other things we all use everyday. This brought the total price tag up to about $2900 before tax. Way more than I wanted to spend, but again, I plan on this being my last computer purchase for at least 5 years...and this would be my only computer...not a secondary one but the primary one.
As I was asking the guy in Best Buy about any sales or discounts, he mentioned a MacBook Pro with retina display that was just retuned to the store by a lady that decided to go with a MacBook Air instead. It had been opened but not used and was in perfect condition. The sales manager said he could sell that one to me for $470 off the normal price. The problem was, it was the base model and only had 8gb Ram and 256gb SSD storage. So, I had the option of buying the computer I wanted...that I know would last me for years and years, for $2,900 OR buy the base model for $1,729. What would you do?
I decided to buy the base model as it was just to good a deal to pass up. Now, 2 days later, I don't know if I made the right decision. I know that 256gb of memory is not going to last me very long...especially considering how much more space modern software takes up nowadays...and its only getting worse. My solution is to just buy an external hard drive and store everything I don't immediately need on it. But I don't know if I'm being realistic as maybe it will be a major pain to constantly have to carry around an extra storage device. Then again, even if I had the 512 SSD model MacBook, I would still eventually run out of space and need an external drive. Has anyone else relied on an external device for their daily computing needs? Is it a major nuisance or easy to get by with?
My bigger concern is that it only has 8gb of Ram and can NOT be upgraded in the future. 8gb ram is fine right now, especially with the flash drive and i7 quad core processor, but in a couple years, I'm afraid it won't be enough and that ill be forced to purchase another computer. The sales manager said that because its a Mac and because of the "monster processor" that the 8gb of Ram will be more than enough for years to come. According to him, Macs require less Ram than PC's due to their operating system being much more efficient. (This is my first Mac so I'm a bit unfamiliar)
So this is my dellima, should I return the base model and buy the one I originally wanted or should I make do with the base model and be thankful for the great deal I was able to get?
Will the 8gb of Ram be enough in a few years? I realize that depends on what I'm using the computer for but, since I'm not sure what my needs will be in the next year, lets assume I'll be using it to run a small business as well as the typical storage of pictures and home videos, etc.
Bottom line, will the 8gb of ram be enough to prevent the need to buy another computer for another 5 years or so or do I need to suck it up, return the base model, pay the extra $1,100 and get the 16gb of ram I originally wanted?
Sorry for the long story, I just need some solid advice as money is tight and I want to make the right decision. I'd rather pay $1,100 extra now and not need to buy a new computer for 5-6 years than save the money now but have to buy a whole new computer in 1-2 years. If however, the 8gb ram will still make for a solid computer in a few years, I will gladly save the money.
Thanks in advance for your help. ;-)

Generally (and in my opinion):
1) do not buy any computer you cannot replace the hard drive and the RAM in.
2) do NOT (EVER, EVER, EVER) purchase RAM or expended hard drive from any vendor (like Apple, Dell, etc). they mark up the RAM
purchase the lowest machine that will work for you and upgrade the RAM and hard drive down the road. Just look at the price Apple charges for the upgrade from 4GB to 8 GB:
Apple is charging the (4GB RAM + $100) for the 8GB upgrade. You can easily get 8GB for $100. later you should be able to get 8GB for $60.
Same thing for the hard drives:
Applis charging the price of (500GB + $100) for the 750GB drive. I just bought a 750GB notebook drive for $99
I, personally, would return the retina notebook for a MacBookPro that you can upgrade the hd and ram

Samsung SSD causing problem with upgrade from Windows 8.0 to 8.1

I'm having trouble upgrading my HP Desktop from the OEM installed Windows 8.0 to 8.1. I first attempted the upgrade when 8.1 was first rolled out. It seemed to upgrade okay, but after a reboot I was left with a black screen... no error messages, just a black screen.
I retried it this morning, but this time it failed with DPC_Watchdog_Exception and then Machine_Check_Exception. After searching through several forums, I'm "guessing" it may be Disk 0, which is a Samsung 830 Series SSD (Model: MZ7PC256/0H1, s/n: S0U3NSAC705912, p/n: MZ7PC256HAFU-000H1) that was installed and configured by HP when I ordered this desktop in 2012.
Samsung's Magician software doesn't recognize this SDD as a supported product, but they do identify it as a Samsung MZ7PC256HAFU-000H1, with Firmware version CXM05H1Q. I thought I'd see if a firmware upgrade was available, but there's no information about this SSD on Samsung's support site. Also, HP doesn't offer any firmware for this SSD... not even the original firmware. Everything I've seen on the internet says it's a custom OEM SSD that's not supported by Samsung.
I'm not desparate to upgrade to Win8.1, but I would like to know exactly why the upgrade keeps failing. I have another SSD available (a Samsung 850 Pro, model: MZ-7KE256BW) that I've considered using to replace the current Drive 0, but I hate swapping out parts without knowing it's actually the problem.
I'm open to advice. The info on my current system follows. Also, I should point out that there are no device conflicts nor outdate drivers.
HP Envy h8-1420t CTO Desktop PC, s/n: 2MD3020CF9, Product No. C1U69AV #ABA
Windows 8 Pro 64 (installed by HP)
Intel Core i7-3770 3rd Gen, Quad-core (Ivy Bridge) 64-bit Processor, 3.4GHz
Memory: 16GB DDR3
Drive 0: 256GB SSD, Samsung 830 Series, Model: MZ7PC256/0H1, s/n: S0U3NSAC705912, p/n: MZ7PC256HAFU-000H1
Drive 1: 1TB 7200 rpm SATA hard drive, Model: WD10EZEK-60ZF5A0, s/n: WCC1S1261511
Drive 2: 750GB SSD, Samsung 840 Series, Model: MZ-7TE750BW, s/n: S1DMNEADB03609
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Hi,
You will find the latest firmware for the Samsung 830 at the Samsung SSD download site. Additionally, you will also find the latest version of the Samsung Magician.
Backup your data and be sure to create the external HP recovery media.
I prefer not to clone but rather to use the external HP recovery media to load the SSD.
If you are not on the latest SSD firmware then flash the SSD. Use the latest version of the Magician to do so.
Disable Secure Boot in the BIOS before cloning the hard drive.
Then reformat and clone the SSD using the latest Samsung migration software. Use the original HP hard drive as the source and it needs to be intact as you need to bring across all of the partitions.
Power off the PC and disconnect the original boot HD.
Connect the SSD to the original boot SATA port.
Do not have any other SSDs or hard drives connected that contain an EFI partitions or you might run into issues with multiple Windows boot loders.
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HP Photosmart Premium C309G, HP Photosmart 6520
HP Touchpad, HP Chromebook 11
Custom i7-4770k,Z-87, 8GB, Vertex 3 SSD, Samsung EVO SSD, Corsair HX650,GTX 760
Custom i7-4790k,Z-97, 16GB, Vertex 3 SSD, Plextor M.2 SSD, Samsung EVO SSD, Corsair HX650, GTX 660TI
Windows 7/8 UEFI/Legacy mode, MBR/GPT

Is it time for a new SSD? Please read my story, my battle with my M4 Crucial SSD

This is whats been happening the past couple of days and what I have been doing to try and isolate what is causing my fresh win7 install to have so many issues running. IMO, i've narrowed it down to be an issue with my SSD, and not my RAM. Please read, and advise. So I changed out my p8z68 MB and ivy bridge CPU for a new maximus VII hero and Devils Canyon Haswell cpu. After installing windows I noticed it was running sluggish and would not install updates successfully or without crashing.Over 3 attempts of reinstalling win7 64bit. The build kept crashing, failed to fix windows startup, MBR error 01 or getting the BSOD. I firt tested my RAM... I ran memtest86 with 100% pass and found and isolated that 1 of the 4 x4gb of my Black Vengeance Corsair ram had errors on it (ram is 3 years old in use). I ended up taking those out and replacing with brand new 2 x 4gb Gskill sniper sticks I had still in packaging. I re-ran Memtest86 on the new RAM just to be sure and ....no errors. I want to emphasise that by now I've reinstalled window 3 times on this build upgrade....noticing a lot of lag, in windows after fresh install . Especially when opening programs like windows update windows as well as other things like, device manager or even a Web browser. If I have more than one window open. My hard SSD LED on my front panel, lights up like it's busy, browser and programs freeze or I get a program "not responding" error, on top until I wait it out...then it disapears. Finally I did another OS install..this time and after much research, I made sure to run a Secure Clean All, on my Crucial M4 SSD (it too has been used for the past 3 year). I had already updated its firmware to 070H a long time ago. I also made sure I had the most current Intel, SATA, VGA, LAN, and sound drivers were downloaded. Durring Windows update it reached 140 of 149 updates before receiving a BSOD again even with the new ram! After Reboot... I went in and this time before running Windows update...again, I made sure all my services were closed and did a "CLEAN" Boot to windows. Doing this finally made my system able to dowload all the updates successfuly. Ok so now that Win7 is fully updated, I got my antivirus ..norton on. More updates, with little issue. But I still notice while my SSD is writing, I say thats what its doing when my computers fornt panel LED is flashing, that the program / software/ game im installing freezes, until it has a chance to "Catch up" , Or install fails, or for instance dowloading patches, updated to games..they have been failing oh and just now for the second time...SKYPE has disconnected itself giving me a I/O error. So these are all my symptoms and what I've tried. To my knowlege the M4 SSD model doesnt have any kind of software to help aid in determining its health . And is why I am here now typing to you all . Is it time to get a new SSD?? What else can I try? Thanks, Christopher.

Hi cswann821,
Is the system overclocked or with default clocks?
Note that your motherboard has two SATA controllers, Intel Z97 with SATA6G_1-6 red connectors and ASMedia controller also with red connectors SATA6G_E1/2. Are you using Intel or ASMedia controlled port?
What do you mean by 'Secure Clean All', what exactly did you do? It is probably not relevant to former issues but note that some tools do 'overwrite with zeroes'. It is not good for SSDs and works completely different than ATA command 'secure erase'.
Check what SATA port is being used and if it is Intel make sure what driver version is in use. You can check it with Device manager -> IDE ATA/ATAPI Controllers -> right click on the selected controller -> Properties -> Driver tab
To check health of the SSD you can use CrystalDiskInfo. Please post SMART data of the drive - use 'Edit > Copy' option, just please remove drive's serial number.

SSD in MBP 13" Retina Late 2013 doesn't work - Can't boot at all

I have a new MacBook Pro 13" Retina which works flawlessly. It has a factory installed 512 GB SSD, which also works flawlessly. Then I bought basically the same type of 512 GB SSD, 2nd hand but new, which I intended to install in another MacBook Pro Retina Late 2013.
The seller told me it is compatible with the MBP Retina Late 2013, but when installed, the known to be good MBPR doesn't boot. Not from that SSD, not from an attached USD HDD which has two perfectly bootable Mavericks partitions. When pressing the alt-Key on booting, I can however see two partitions on that SSD (Mac OS X 10.8.4 and a Recovery Partition), yet it is not booting at all, thus also doesn't allow me to inspect or treat this SSD with Disk Utility or other tools.
All I get is the grey screen with the striked through circle sign (see attached image). I've tried both, PRAM reset and SMC reset, no change.
Here comes the interesting part: Although both SSD look identical, they have slightly different model and part numbers (see attached image).
Working, factory installed SSD: Model MZ-JPUS512T/0A6. Part No. 665-1805D
Non-booting, 2nd hand SSD: Model MZ-JPUS512T/0A2. Part No. 665-1805A
Any ideas what’s going on here and how to solve this?

Excellent point! Mac OS X 10.9.1 doesn’t equal Mac OS X 10.9.1!
Back in the bad old days of Mac OS X Install DVDs, I was aware of the fact that there were different versions of the OS X Installer testing against the Mac ID to make sure that bundled versions get only installed on those Macs which the DVD came with. And the DVD where clearly labeled in that sense.
Now in the days of Internet download and installation from USB sticks, SSD and HDD, one completely forgets about this. On the other hand, with Mavericks being free, I don’t understand the need for such limitations, and not at least the recovery partition allows booting any Mac which supports Mavericks.
When you boot with the alt-Key pressed and you see at least one partition with Mac OS X 10.9.1, one just doesn’t understand why the heck the Mac doesn’t boot. Now I do. Apple would be well advised to simply add a short info line, like „This version of Mac OS X is missing components to boot this Mac. Please re-install from the AppStore using this computer“. It would take out A LOT of guesswork.
Anyhow… I booted the MBPR using the working SSD, installed Mavericks from the AppStore on the external USB HDD, switched the SSDs, booted from the external USD HDD’s now bootable 10.9.1 Recovery Partition, wiped the suspicious non-booting SSD and installed Mavericks. No further problems. (Completely forgot about the CMD-OPT-R Internet Recover Mode keg55 has mentioned…)
Thanks for the hint!

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