Sssssllllooooowwww browsing of RAW files

LR 1.2 and below seem to display my RAW files very slowly (it says "loading" at the bottom of the pic). I'm on a fast 3.2ghz Core 2 duo with 2gbs of ram, but average video card.
Irfanview displays them perfectly fast. Is the LR RAW engine just slower than Irfanviews?
I've had this issue on both of my PCs.
Any ideas?
Thanks!

I have a Vista Core2 Quad Q6600 and scrolling through a group of Sony .ARW (10MB) and Panasonic .RAW (20MB) is virtually instanteous at Fit/Fill with 1680 pixel standard previews created. It takes a tad longer (roughly a half second) to generate 1-1 previews. Two things you can try-take a group of files and generate/regenerate the standard previews. In some cases when LR 1.1 came out this fixed some sluggish behavior. Another is to turn off the "Loading" message. In View/View Options/Loupe View uncheck the box for "Show message when loading or rendering photos" something that helps the perceived speed.
LR should be very fast on your machine.

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What type of RAW files are we talking about, NEF,CR2 or other?
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Hi all...my first post here...
I'm able to load and see my Raw files in the organizer after loading the latest ACR. But when I browse through the files, after a bit, I get an error message that Elements needs to close. After closing I check my task manager and notice that the organizer is at 25% CPU usage, so something is hanging things up. I just don't know enough to figure it out. (I'm a little tech savvy, but not a lot...)
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"Bug Files"? That's a new one for me.
I've successfully imported a Thousand RAW files with thumbnails generated in the organizer.
I've got 4gigs of RAM.
I left the organizer open for 6 hours today and when I got back home, the RAW files still wanted to freeze, yet I was able to go to some jpg files and work on them before getting the "Elements is not responding and needs to close message". I'm going to go back to check on browsing the RAW files again.
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i have a problem
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often i open my raw files with camera raw inside bridge cs5 and make some corrections like exposure , saturation , contrast and so on
but after bridge doesn't re-render the files
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mantralightroom wrote:
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thanks
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The Always HQ takes more space, but faster as the data is already in cache.
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I use rawtherapee for most of my photo editing needs. (Not that I have an especially high skill level.) It provides, among other things, a browser interface for moving through your files. It looks like AUR still has version 2.3 -- I suggest the beta instead, which is available for x86_64 or x86 right from www.rawtherapee.com -- IME it's been very stable, and it contains many, many bugfixes and interface/workflow improvements over the current "release" version.
I haven't broadly sampled a bunch of different apps, but I've been very happy with it.
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If you try running it without first doing that, and it fails to start up, check to see whether you need to kill the "rt" process before trying again.
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I assume your raws are in DNG format? If xmp is in sidecar, it won't change raw file date.
Anyway, saving xmp does not change any dates in Lightroom, so you should still be able to sort by edit time or capture time...
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Photoshop CS4 smart object template just overwrote a raw file - HELP

So. I've been working in Photoshop extensively for about 6 years now and I am well aware that nothing we do in Photoshop or Lightroom is supposed to overwrite a raw file. I'm not talking about changing it to something a little lighter or darker, I'm talking about replacing a picture of one baseball player with another one - and the original? Gone.
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If it clarifies: pictures of player A (who played in 2009) is in all of the smart object layers in my template. I want to make that poster be of player B (who played in 2012) so I begin replacing all the smart objects. When I get to the 3rd image in the poster template, Photoshop overwrites my raw file of player B with the smart object photo of Player A. There were no photos of player A on the network drive that the picture of Player B was on. But there's one now. My raw file shows that it was modified about 10 minutes ago.
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mojoimagery wrote:
Now - JJ - when you say "overlay files" - what do you mean? Because that feels like a good description for what happened.
We performed no save operation at any point during the sequence of events that ended with the image in one raw file being replaced by the image in the smart object.
As I wrote Smart Object layers embedded object is a copy of the original and if you replace it you replace it with a copy of some other object. Embedded object are copies and independent from the original. If after creating a smart Object layer who's embedded object is a copy of a raw file and its conversion settings. You change the original RAW files RAW conversion settings the smart object layer raw conversion setting are not changes for its a copy with independent raw conversion settings. When you replace a smart object layers contents you will replace the embedded object and you should replace it with an object the has the same pixel size and orientation. Because there is an associated transform for the object in the layer that is not replaced. The replacement is also a copy. If the original smart object was created using File Open where you choose a RAW file ACR would open with the RAW files current conversion settings. In ACR you can changes the setting then hold down the shift key to change the open image button to an Open Object button. Using that button ACR will open a smart object layer in Photoshop the contents of the embedded object is a copy of the RAW file and the current ACR settings. No File is written Photoshop is not a File Editor its a Document editor that has many data structures for different layer types. When you replace the contents of a smart object you will be put into a "Place" file selection dialog if you choose a raw file it should have the same orientation as the image being replaced because of the associated transform. When you choose a RAW file ACR will open and you can change the conversion settings however there will be no Open Image button instead there will be an OK button. There is also a save image button and you can save a RAW file that is a DNG file not a CR2 file. Like the DNG converter. If you click the OK button the embedded object in the smart object layer will be replaced with a copy of the selected RAW file and the current ACR settings. Again there is no file written Photoshop is not a File editor just the embedded smart object data is replaced in Photoshop smart object layer's data structure.
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I can no longer view raw files in bridge - CS4

I have already updated camera raw to view my CR2 files from my Canon 50 D. All was working well, I have already edited over 1000 photos using bridge to browse. I used it yesterday and it worked fine. Shot some more photos, loaded them to my computer and then tried to browse in bridge. Now bridge will not show me the photos, I get the raw icon only. I reset preferences.....restarted my computer.....installed updates...... I have no idea why it suddenly stopped working....or how to fix it! Has anyone had a similar problem? I am using windows vista.

cindylou57 wrote:
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Simply select one of your crw files, do GetInfo (command-i) on the file and in the Open With section choose Photoshop. Click the Apply to All button. From now on all crw files will open in Photoshop. I suspect the default changed because Preview can now open many many raw files, and not everyone has Photoshop.
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>t would be useful in trying to use your Mac's own file browser
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The Finder, MaryAnn. :)
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When you are selecting the folder in the DNG converter, you only click on the folder. You DON'T double click on the folder. After you have set your options, and chosen the folder, you click on the Convert button. It is only after you have clicked on Convert that you will see the list of files that are being converted. You will also be able to see an indicator of the progress of the conversion. It really does work. Just to verify, the procedure I outlined is one that I did just prior to trying to write the instructions. It really isn't rocket science. Just choose the folder, only the folder, and click on the Convert button.
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Raw file previews of .rw2 files (in Finder, etc.) on Macintosh?

I know that this is not necessarily a Photoshop question, but it is the kind of issue that Photoshop users might be able to help me with.
I have two computers and two cameras. The computers are both Macs, the cameras are a Canon and Panasonic. For reasons that I don't understand, I can see image previews of the Canon raw files (.CR2) files in the Finder and other programs, but I can see previews of the Panasonic files (.RW2) files on only one computer. Both computers have Creative Suite Design Standard CS4 installed. I just updated Camera Raw by hand to v 5.7, but this didn't help.
I have talked to Apple Tech Support, they said that this was a user application issue--some application installs something that allows the Finder and other apps to display a preview of the image.
Browsing Apple's support forums, there is an indication that if I were to install iLife or Aperture, that might solve my problem (because there is a raw file updater for Mac that supports .RW2 files). But I don't have either program currently installed on either computer, and one can display previews.
Any thoughts on this? Anyone else able to see or not see previews of raw files.
TIA
PS--converting the .rw2 files to .dng does not help.

hello. did you ever find a solution to this problem? i still have this same problem with .rw2 riles not previewing in finder on one of my macs.
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.xmp files showing up in my SD card when accessing RAW files in Finder... Very weird!

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I'm having a very weird problem... I'm using a 4GB Scandisk SD card and am shooting my RAW photos on a Canon Rebel 2ti. I'm using a Macbook Pro, 2011 2.3Ghz i5, 4gb of Ram, with Lion v. 10.7.2 and am accessing the SD card RAW files through Finder. I'm secondary clicking on the image file or double clicking them as PS is my default opening program for RAW files. When I hit the "Done" key on any of the Photoshop files, a new .xmp file shows up in Finder. When I open it, it's a Microsoft Messenger for Mac 8 License Agreement...
I do have Microsoft Office 11 installed and have never used Messenger. It's not a huge deal, but it's driving me crazy and it's totally weird!
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It's a lot of separate, unrelated things happening to you in one long chain, but each step is normal and explainable.
You are opening raw files straight from a card into Photoshop. Photoshop will open them in Camera Raw. Camera Raw's preferences are set to save changes in XMP sidecar files. You are clicking Done, which applies the default Camera Raw processing, and that change generates an XMP file to store these new settings. That's why an XMP file is showing up in the same folder. On a computer, that's fine. But writing back out to a camera card with a device other than the camera is not recommended. What is recommended is to use another, faster way to preview raw files on a card without changing them (Adobe Bridge, Lightroom, Apple Aperture, Photo Mechanic, etc.), so that the card's left untouched as it should be.
If you don't want the XMP file to be generated, you have to do just one of the following:
In Camera Raw preferences, change the "Save image settings in" option to "Camera Raw database", not "Sidecar XMP files".
Instead of clicking Done every time, which applies any changes, click Cancel instead, if you were just looking and not editing.
Use something other than Photoshop to preview raw files. Most of the other ways are faster than opening them in Photoshop. The recommended workflow is to use a camera downloading utility to look through all the images on the card at once (instead of one by one as you are doing), and then select only the ones you want to bring into your computer. Bridge (via File > Get Photos from Camera, not by browsing), Lightroom, Aperture, and iPhoto all have that capability.
As to why double-clicking an XMP file opens a Messenger license agreement: As you probably know, the system has to figure out what program should open a file with a given filename extension. It sounds like maybe both Adobe and Microsoft have used the XMP extension, and the Office installer probably associated it with some type of MS Messenger file. So when you double-click an XMP file, Mac OS X opens Messenger. Since you have not used Messenger before, it's showing you the "first run" screen for Messenger, and Microsoft has set it up so that you have to click Agree on the license agreement before using it. If you never click Agree, it will still be the "first run" next time you open Messenger, whether you meant to or not. You can use Get Info in the Mac Finder to reassign XMP to open in another program.
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