Stabilization: iMovie9 to FCE4

I import my tapes into iMovie9 and use stabilization. Then I import the folder with the stabilized shots into FCE4. Is there anything I have to be aware of when working with these stabilized clips or can I handle them like the clips imported directly unstabilized into FCE?

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CoSA_DaveS wrote:
All good points, thanks for posting.
For #1, you can make this work in AE at least. This tip is from my colleague DanW:
If you make a preset by only selecting the values you change (and not a preset for the whole effect) then it will auto-analyze on apply.
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For #6, Warp Stabilizer will not track areas with zero alpha channel. So you can pre-mask the input to reveal just the parts you want to stabilize. Do this inside a nested sequence, with Warp Stabilizer applied downstream (in the outer sequence). The just-announced masking & tracking capabilities of the next CC version should be handy for this.
-DaveS, Adobe Dynamic Media, Advanced Product Development
Hi DaveS!
Great to hear that you guys are taking a look at this list. Hope it helps make it better. #1, #2, and #3 are by far the biggest time killers for us so hopefully they'll be able to be fixed/resolved within Premiere soon.
Regarding your note about #1: Allowing this functionality within Premiere specifically would be very helpful. Would it be possible to eventually allow Premiere to auto-analyze when a saved custom preset is applied to a clip? I tried it in AE as you suggested, and couldn't figure it out. But realistically we use Warp Stabilizer on so many clips that round tripping literally hundreds of short clips to AE would be just as time consuming as going into the settings in premiere for each one and adjusting the parameters. We usually adjust the method and then adjust the smoothness scale so that it doesn't "Auto-Scale" more than 104%. That's where our #3 suggestion would help. I didn't quite understand how to make a preset of specific changed values. I tried, but couldn't follow DanW's suggestion. Granted, I'm not that great with AE. I really just use it for the Warp VFX's ability to isolate what in frame is stabilized (hope that comes to Premiere one day) and that's about it. And I really only have to do that a couple times per project. Anyway, I'm sure I'm doing DanW's suggestions wrong but regardless, I'm not sure it would save us much time when we have several hundred individual little clips that would all need to be sent to AE. Any hope for adding this auto-analyze functionality (hopefully allowing a custom preset on the whole effect and all it's adjusted parameters) in Premiere CC?
Regarding your note about #4: That is a valid work around for now. I appreciate that thought. Thanks!
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Fixing the first 3 on this list would be HUGE time saver for us.
Thanks again DaveS to you and the rest of the Adobe team for looking into this list. Very much appreciated.

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Hi, I'm having a problem with the stabilization all of a sudden. I did an analyze. The amount of shake isn't terrible but it's there. There are no squiggly lines in the clip I'm trying to stabilize. As you can see in the screenshot that it allows me to c

Hi,
I'm having a problem with the stabilization all of a sudden. I did an analyze. The amount of shake isn't terrible but it's there. There are no squiggly lines in the clip I'm trying to stabilize. As you can see in the screenshot that it allows me to click the "Smooth clip motion" but the slider is not there for zoom. Any ideas why this is happening all of a sudden? It happens on all clips in this event. The entire event was analyzed after importing.

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While you cannot run multiple instances of [AE] or [Ae] on a single computer, if you have [AE] and [Ae] both installed, you can run both of them on a single computer because they are separate programs. So now you can do two things at once including Warp Stabilizer.

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@hafken
I didn`t analyze during import.
If i try the way you wrote -> i delete the files in the folder"stabilization":
1) do i have to check this little blue checkpoints (ON/OFF) on all clips i want to stabilize again? or are they still there and it works for itself in the backgroundrendering task?
2) do i have to right click on the clip in the timeline and choose "Analyze and stabilize" ?
or do i have to set the blue checkpoint in the inspector window for each clip i want to stabilize again ?

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http://www.redgiantsoftware.com/products/all/magic-bullet-denoiser/compatibility/
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