Stacking Disabled & No Virtual Copies

I am not sure if I did this to my software or not. I can no longer stack photos - the stacking options no longer appear in the context menus and the main menus are grayed out. I can edit and work with the photos otherwise no problem EXCEPT that creating virtual copies doesn't result in a copy either in LR and no additional XMP file outside either. Anyone resolved this and/or is there an idiot box someplace where I've inadvertently shut stacking off?

Yes my VCs have keywords - checkmarks show up no problem.
In case 1. I click on a Keyword tag - 39 images show up in the grid and the number next to the Keyword reads "39". I select the last image in the grid and create VC. Number of images in the GRID reads 39 but the counter next to the keyword now reads 40. The grid is sorted by Filename in ascending order and there are no filters applied (i.e. the filter bar is disabled). When I toggle to the folder view that contains these images I see both original and VC stacked and I can unstack them - edit one and verify that the keywords match. But when I return to the Keyword view which still has the number 40 next to it I still only get 39 images in the GRID and no sign of the VC or that one even exists!
In case 2 I start by making VC in the folder view but I get the same results. My VC's won't show up in the keyword tag views stacked or otherwise. I just assumed this was connected to stacking limitations. Do people get a different result for this process?

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