Start routine from ODS to Info cube in bw 3.5

Hi Folks,
We have a code for START ROUTINE from ODS to Info Cube.
we are doing FULL Load to ODS(0CRM_QUT1) and from ODS to INFO CUBE also we are doing FULL Load.
Iam planning to change to DELTA Load from ODS to Info Cube to improve performance.
Is there any situtation If we write a Start routine from ODS to Info cube we can't do DELTA Load .
Please clarify me.

improving performance is a good thing. using delta load mechanism is also good for performance as loadings are faster and are less time cosuming. Nevertheless analyse carefully how the solution was built to understand clearly why a full load was required at the time of the design of the solution. maybe the full load was used for some reasons that are still valid or would require more than just changing from a full to a delta load . in conclusion it is always good to use delta but in your case look carefully at the existing coding it is possible that look up is coded for inserting records or other treatments.
hope this could help you out.

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Somnath,
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both fetches full load but after full load deltas is not possible.
Full update
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