Starting network later

Hello,
Sometimes when I boot up my computer, there's no network. The solution then is to type "/etc/rc.d/network restart" as superuser.
When I shut down my computer, I also shut down all the power, including the modem.
When starting it up, I turn on the power, and then the computer. While the computer boots up, the modem is also starting up (it's an ADSL modem).
Since sometimes I have network, sometimes not, I think it depends on how fast the modem started up that I have it or not. That's just my theory though. I think if ArchLinux would just init the network a little bit later, the problem would be gone.
Is there any way to make it do the network only after initializing everything else?
Or do you know any other (better) solution for this annoyance?
Thanks!

tomk wrote:
You're talking about two completely independent unconnected power-ons - one for your computer, one for your modem. No matter how late Arch initialises the network,  there is always the chance that it will be too early for your modem.
Solution: write a custom network init script that tests for connectivity, and loops over the required command(s) until the connection is established.
The thing is, I never had this problem with my previous computer. My previous computer was 5 year old, and the Archlinux on it too (with 5 years of pacman -Syu history). So at least the two independent unconnected power-ons seem to be no problem for some Arch boxes. I've never created background daemons there either, or done any delay, it just never was a problem there.
This new computer (well, half a year old in the meantime) has this problem.
So maybe there was something better about how the old one was configured, but what could that be?
Last edited by aardwolf (2012-09-19 19:54:44)

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    Hello Carolyn,
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    I think that I need to refresh my MB with brand new battery
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    I gotta problem with my network  on bootup, my network won't start. I think it is to do with the way my interfaces are configured in /etc/rc.conf (not sure though):
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  • Weird issue starting network at boot [Solved]

    So, whenever i bootup, when it comes to starting the network, it hangs for a few seconds, then says 'fail', however, whenever i get gnome up and working, the connection is working just fine, so far, i have tried to increase the timeout though it doesn't really seem to make it wait any longer during boot...here is my rc.conf if it helps anyone, also, i am trying to connect to some NFS shares from my freeNAS box on boot, but since that fails, the network shares normally do to, but after booted, i can just do mount -a and they all connect just fine...its weird
    rc.conf:
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    # LOCALIZATION
    # LOCALE: available languages can be listed with the 'locale -a' command
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    # Wireless: See network profiles below
    #Static IP example
    #eth0="dhcp"
    eth0="dhcp"
    INTERFACES=(eth0)
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    gateway="default gw 192.168.2.1"
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    # if you happen to need multiple network configurations (ie, laptop users)
    # - set to 'menu' to present a menu during boot-up (dialog package required)
    # - prefix an entry with a ! to disable it
    # Network profiles are found in /etc/network.d
    # This now requires the netcfg package
    #NETWORKS=(main)
    # DAEMONS
    # Daemons to start at boot-up (in this order)
    # - prefix a daemon with a ! to disable it
    # - prefix a daemon with a @ to start it up in the background
    DAEMONS=(syslog-ng dbus hal fam network rpcbind nfs-common netfs crond)
    also, i do have 'myhost' added to my hosts file as well, did so during setup...
    anyone got any ideas?
    Thanks
    Last edited by psilo357 (2009-12-21 00:02:46)

    alright, if just backgrounded 'network' it woudl cause rpcbind to start after it, but fail, so i backgrounded them all, and while network no longer says FAIL while booting, the network drives still don't mount, i still have to issue a mount -a after boot to get everything mounted...
    thanks for the tip though.  I don't mind it not running in background and waiting an extra few seconds to get everything setup as i want it to be as soon as i am logged in, just want it to all start correctly.
    EDIT:  alright, all network drives ARE mounting correctly on boot if nothing is in background, but i still don't like that network says FAIL when it is starting up, though it is apparently working...
    all help is appreciated.
    Last edited by psilo357 (2009-12-19 20:31:27)

  • Have to manually start network . . .[solved]

    Hi,
    For some reason my network doesn't start when I boot, but works fine when I run dhcpcd after logging in.  I presume this is something simple, but would appreciate some help.
    The module I need is 8139too.  mkinticpio's autodetect gives 8139cp and 8139too for some reason, so I sorted that out in rc.conf.  (It didn't work when I left the modules alone, either).
    Here the relevant parts:
    MOD_BLACKLIST=(pcspkr 8139cp)
    MODULES=(8139too )
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    eth0="DHCP"
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    INTERFACES=(lo eth0 eth1)
    #gateway="default gw 192.168.0.254"
    ROUTES=(!gateway)
    DAEMONS=(syslog-ng !hotplug !pcmcia hal network @fam @portmap @netfs @crond @alsa)
    I have network in the daemons array, but on startup it says 'cannot find device' (can't remember the exact wording) when trying to connect the network, as if the module isn't loaded yet, perhaps?  Should something be loaded before network in the daemons?
    The other thing is that I have eth0 and eth1 despite having only one network device (insofar as I'm aware) - ought this be the case?  I just stuck eth1 into rc.conf blindly since it existed.
    Any ideas on how to fix this?
    Thanks.
    Fishonadish

    Don't know wether it belongs to rc.conf, too.
    But UNIX is case-sensitive. Try to replace this line:
    eth0="DHCP"
    by
    erh0="dhcp"
    And all others that contain capitalized "DHCP".
    And why do you connect via dhcp through two network interfaces?

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    cant see on available wifi networks on my iphone....when i start sharing wifi on network preferences..can anyone pls help

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