Startup/Hard Drive Failure on iBook G4

My iBook G4, bought about two and a half years ago, recently developed a very serious problem. Occasionally, on startup, I get a blank screen, then a flashing folder icon with a question mark/Mac OS icon. This happens erratically. Sometimes the computer starts up just fine.
The first few times it happened, I did an Apple Hardware test, and got the following error code under the 'mass storage' heading.
2STF/2/3: ATA - 100 ata - 6 - Master
I rang Apple, even though the iBook is out of its 2 year warranty (by a couple of months naturally). They suggested it was a hard drive fault.
Foolishly trusting them more than I should have, I went out and bought a new hard drive (with identical spec) and replaced it myself. During the repair I noticed one of the screw fixings (a little metal loop) on the bottom shield had sheared off, but thought nothing of it (I find it hard to believe this has any relevance).
I replaced the drive, reinstalled everything, including all the old files, and the computer worked fine... for about three days.
The computer started to hang for a few minutes every so often when asked to do simple tasks (open an application, save a document, etc.) and we'd get stuck with the colour wheel. (I've read a few examples of this phenomenon on discussion forums, which is worrying). The applications didn't crash, they just worked very slowly, and it wasn't confined to any particular app.
Eventually we started getting the same erratic startup error. Hardware test reports no errors, as does Techtool Deluxe (even when I run every single test, including a surface scan). I opened up the iBook again to check all the cables and screws, but everything looks perfectly intact to me.
Has anyone encountered anything like this before? I am utterly stumped, and not nearly wealthy enough to have Apple fix it (especially if it's something as serious and costly as a logic board problem or something). I heard a rumour there is such a thing as a 'memory distribution' problem that might cause these symptoms, but google doesn't turn up anything under that description.
Please help! My Mac is dying!

When you installed the new HD, did you also reinstall
the OS, or did you transfer your existing information
to the new drive?
I reinstalled the OS and used Migration Assistant to bring back everything else. I guess I could try doing this differently, in case its some corrupt library date that's causing all the problems. I'll try that and post again in a few days.
Strange Disk Utility does not recognize your HD.
Does it only show your DVD in the left panel?
Yes. When I startup from the OSX DVD, there is only the DVD and a 'network startup' option, but no hard drive at all.
Go back to "safe mode". Once there, select System
Preferences>Start-Up Disk. Does your HD appear?
Yes it does.
Have a look at
this Apple article regarding start-up
problems.
Here too.
Thanks for these, but I think I've already tried all the relevant things, thanks to your advice.
Outside of repairing your HD via Disk Utility, or
replacing equipment (eg logic board) either Disk
Warrior or a
reinstall of the OS would be your
options.
Well, I probably can't afford either option, but we'll see how desperate I get. Thanks for your time.

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    My Powerbook G4 suffered a hard drive failure a couple of months ago, and every bit of information was lost in no-man's land. After seeking help with Apple, I was sent to DriveSavers. Thankfully, they were able to recover 100% of my drive or that's what they tell me anyway. (No need to scold me, I have learned my lesson about backing up EVERYTHING -- especially when the bill arrived from DriveSavers!) The Powerbook was kaput, so I decided to purchase an new iMac. DriveSavers has put my entire Powerbook contents onto several DVD discs, but so far I have had very little luck with actually transferring and using any of it on the iMac. I have been able to copy document files from Appleworks, Photoshop, etc. onto the iMac, and I can open them and use them with no problem. Although, I did have to go back and re-install the actual Photoshop and Appleworks applications from their original software discs since I was unable to successfully copy the applications from the DriveSavers discs onto the iMac. Still, I am in desperate need of certain Apple applications from the Powerbook that just will not appear on the iMac -- things like Address Book, all of my Stickies , plus the other Stickies that were only located on Dashboard (i was a stickies freak), the emails and contacts saved in Mail, the appts. & scheduling in iCal, etc. I cannot successfully access these kinds of things. I am able to copy an entire disc from DriveSavers onto the iMac, but when I launch the Address Book application from that folder, it just opens up the empty, brand new Address Book from the iMac or the new, empty iCal. The same thing happens with other similar programs. (I think iTunes has been the only thing with which I have any kind of success.) I've even rifled through the DVD discs and gone through my old User folder to the Library folder, then the Caches folder, and finally to the .com.apple.AddressBook folder where I extracted just the Metadata folder which clearly contains all of my contacts. When I try to add just the contact cards to the iMac's Address Book application, I still doesn't work and remains empty. The only way I've been able to look at any of my contacts is to use TextEdit to open those contact cards, and then dig through all of the jargon and piece together the info. It's very frustrating and time-consuming. I would just like for my Powerbook to be reincarnated, if you will, here on this new iMac. Is this even possible? I am completely baffled, and beginning to fear that I may have paid thousands of dollars for DVDs that would serve me better if I were lost in the Sahara and needing to signal a plane flying overhead by reflecting them against the sun. If anyone has any advice or tips, I would be very grateful.
    Cheers,
    Maize
    Intel-based iMac Mac OS X (10.4.6)
    PowerbookG4 Mac OS X (10.4.6)
    PowerbookG4   Mac OS X (10.4.6)  

    Hi,
    Maybe this article can help :
    http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106941#2c
    Take a look at the 'manual' backup and restore sections of the article.
    Good luck!
    iBook G4   Mac OS X (10.4.7)  

  • What's the Difference Between Logic Board Failure and Hard Drive Failure

    Hi!
    So I wanted to know the difference between a Logic Board Failure and Hard Drive Failure because a couple of days ago I tried starting my computer up and I was welcomed by the Apple chime and a grey screen. I have been researching and most people say its either the hard drive or the logic board. So I am curious to know what are the symptoms of both. Thanks a lot, in advance!

    The hard drive is where the OS resides, if it dies there is no OS loading, so you can't boot. If you hook up your external drive with your clone of the internal drive, boot up and hold down the option key, select your clone drive as the startup drive in boot manager that then appears, and the computer boots normally, then the computer is OK, it is just the internal drive that has gone south. You don't have a clone to boot from? Now you know why you should.
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  • Imminent hard drive failure message

    can i return my laptop to the store for a replacement.. it is less than 5 months old and i am getting an imminent hard drive failure message. totally unacceptable

    HP will replace the hard drive under warranty. Not too many stores will permit a return after 5 mos. We can also assist with a hard drive replacement.

  • Having hard drive failure every year

    Trying to find out why the hard drives on our computer HP TouchSmart 310-1124F keeps failing.  Purchased this computer new in 2011, in February of 2012 the hard drive failed, message was "Hard desk failure is imminent have it replaced" so I did.  Now in 2013 I'm getting another message " we strongly recommend that you back up your computer to avoid potential data loss ... contact your computer manufacturer to determine if the disk with errors needs to be repaired or replaced."  The computer is attached to a good battery backup, it's not used for extended Internet work, No new programs have been downloaded, it is not used to download or upload information and although it's not our main computer it is used daily.  What is going on, is anyone having same issues.  I feel the computer itself is a lemon.  This will be the 3rd hard drive in 2 years on this machine!  By- the- way I did contact the Tech. department telling them the error message but was only told this computer was "not in warranty now" and that ... "you'll need to purchase a new hard drive"  No offer or indication as to a possible repair could be done. Yeah that dosen't make me feel that great about this product.  I just want to find out why the hard drives installed on this machine only last one (1) year! Any advise would be appreciated, thank you.

    WRI-Jupiter,
    Your computer may not / most likely doesn't have anything to do with the hard drive failures you have experienced. Drive manufacturers have been reducing the warranty period on drives for years. Also, as drive density has gone up, it appears that quality control has gone down.
    Was the first drive replaced under warranty by HP or did you do it yourself??? Have you kept the computer free of "dust bunnies"??? What is the average temperature where you live???
    By the way, the "we strongly recommend that you back up your computer to avoid potential data loss ... contact your computer manufacturer to determine if the disk with errors needs to be repaired or replaced" message was primarily just for your information. Because the warranty has expired, HP will no longer repair the machine without you incurring additional costs.
    Your best bet is to;
    1)  Follow the advice of the message above and back-up any and all data you wish to save before the computer encounters a major hard drive issue.
    2)  Run the hard drive diagnostics from the boot menu or DOWNLOAD and run the HP Vision Hardware Diagnostics CD Image.
    3)  Also consider downloading and running the hard drive manufacturuer's diagnostics routine and see if it generates an error code. If the drive is still under warranty and you receive an error code, contact the manufacturer for an RMA.
    4)  When replacing the drive make sure to blow all the dust out of the computer and continue this practice about every three months.
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    Frank
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  • Envy 14 - Hard Drive failure imminent

    I have an Envy 14-1110NR laptop and am getting a Hard Drive failure imminent message every time I boot up.  Having run the HP diagnostics, the hard drive check fails so I'm guessing I have to replace it.
    The hard drive is a Samsung HM640JJ which has gone obsolete.  Does anyone know what I need to do...?
    Thanks so much...
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    Hi,
    The error message would indicate that the Hard Drive is failing and needs to be replaced.
    If your notebook is still under warranty, contact HP and arrange to have the drive replaced - you can check your warranty status Here.
    If you live in the US, contact HP Here.
    If you are in another part of the world, start Here.
    If you are out of warranty and would like a guide on replacing the Hard Drive yourself, please let me know.
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  • Satellite A-35-S159 Hard Drive Failure

    Hi,
    I am getting a message that a hard drive failure is imminent. I am prepared to replace the hard drive. (I might need your help there, hope not!) Prior to this, I tried to upgrade the memory, and was having crash events. Do you think that the crash events were hard drive related and not memory upgrade related, as I originally thought? Do you think with the replacement of the hard drive that the memory upgrade might take?
    Also, will I be able to get the drivers I need from here? i don't have a Toshiba recovery disk, i will have to install WXP on the new drive.
    Thanks for any help!

    Satellite A35-S159 
    All your Toshiba drivers and utilities are here.
    But you are far better off ordering the recovery media from Toshiba by calling Customer Service at 800-457-7777. (Have the computer's serial number and a credit card handy.)
    When you restore the hard drive from there, all the drivers and utilities have been preinstalled in the correct order.
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