Startup with spfile in 920

SQL> startup
(instance started using my default spfile - spfilesid.ora)
SQL> create spfile='spfiletest.ora' from pfile
(an spfile named spfiletest.ora created under $ORACLE_HOME/dbs/)
SQL> shutdown immediate
SQL> startup pfile=$ORACLE_HOME/dbs/spfiletest.ora
Got errors:
LRM-00123: invalid character 0 found in the input file
ORA-01078: failure in processing system parameters
Please help. Thanks.

Hi,
The PFILE parameter is used to startup with an ordinary init.ora file.
For more information, look at : http://otn.oracle.com/docs/products/oracle9i/doc_library/release2/server.920/a96521/create.htm#1012659
/Uffe

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check which file it is reading
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down and bring up database
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I guess ur changing in some other file which oracle is not reading.
or u can issue startp pfile='path';
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I am trying to startup database with spfile which is stored on ASM. when i tried to startup it says no file in $ORACLE_HOME/dbs.
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http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E11882_01/server.112/e25513/initparams243.htm#REFRN10207
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RMAN-00571: ===========================================================
RMAN-00569: =============== ERROR MESSAGE STACK FOLLOWS ===============
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Fixed Size                   787988 bytes
Variable Size             145488364 bytes
Database Buffers           25165824 bytes
Redo Buffers                 524288 bytes
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NAME                                 TYPE        VALUE
spfile                               string
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2 /
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NAME                                 TYPE        VALUE
spfile                               string
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Fixed Size                   787988 bytes
Variable Size             145488364 bytes
Database Buffers           25165824 bytes
Redo Buffers                 524288 bytes
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3. LMS - HCMI - Event ID 2, Task Category: none
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T61-Elwood wrote:
Laptops of all Brands using Nvidia GPUsmade from 2007-2008 are faulty.
You wont get good Nvidia ones on Ebay/forumes anywhere.
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As for the forums (I don't do feebay) there are people who sell genuine, properly-tested planars. However, these do not come at bargain basement prices, and with a good reason if I may add.
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Last edited by orschiro (2013-03-01 15:29:02)

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