Statistical WBS in Error

In Project Systems -we have a Level 4 WBS that has a travel document /cost charged against it and the WBS is statistical, when we move the cost to a cost center and return to CJ20N to view the WBS in question, the statistical box is greyed out, refusing to let us change it, even though in the IMG, via configuration we have changed PRPS-XSTAT to "Input" from display mode and we've also changed "Integrated Planning" from display to Input for the project profile we are working on.
How did this come about, the Level 2 WBS was marked account assignment in error and our sbustitution did not fire removing integrated planning from the Level 4 WBS, therefore we cannot remove the integrated planning status of the Level 4 WBS on the Control Tab in CJ20N. We suspect because costs have been charged against the statitiscal WBS in error - BUT moved to a cost center - effectively deleting it from the WBS - correct?, then the WBS should be available for us to make changes to it? Please respond as quickly as you can. Regards,..........Em Lewis, NC DOT

Hi,
Reversal is just another posting which negates the original one and brings the net value to zero. So once the posting is made these checkboxes will not be open for editing.
Regards
Sreekanth

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