Staying With Snow Leopard

Hi.
I'm seriously thinking about forgetting the whole Lion/Mountain Lion idea, and just staying with Snow Leopard as my main OS over the next couple of years. My computers seem to like it, and it's clean and stable.
I'm wondering, though, whether SL will be supported enough to be okay to use, once Mountain Lion comes out. Does anyone have any idea how well the older OS'es hold up after the newer ones are released?

Does anyone have any idea how well the older OS'es hold up after the newer ones are released?
Very well in fact. Many people still use Tiger as it was arguably the best for older G4s. Apple even released a version of Safari for it in November 2010, years after Tiger was discontinued.
Your biggest concern will be lack of support from third party software developers, but considering everything written for Snow Leopard requires Intel code it is unlikely anything developed for Snow will become obsolete any time soon. All software will be distributed through the App Store but Snow Leopard already has that.
Right now I don't know of anything that requires Lion, other than certain Apple features like AirDrop.
Lion and its eventual descendants will only improve but that's no reason you have to jump in right now. Lion is a major release, arguably the biggest change in OS X since its inception. Waiting is OK.

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Upgraded to Lion, wish I'd stayed with Snow Leopard

Just venting here....
I bought my first Mac in 1985, and I have been using them ever since. I have always eagerly anticipated the release of a new OS, and I have never been disappointed--until now. I upgraded to Lion on the first day it came out, and I wish I had just stayed with Snow Leopard. Some of the changes baffle me, as well as the absence of useful features I'd come to rely on in Leopard and Snow Leopard.
Oh, well. I'm hoping I will grow to like Lion as time goes on.

Well, one reason for this is that you know FCP very well...
All the more reason to stay with it, though it does appear that Apple has turned their collective backs on users, such as you.
Now, one answer would be for Adobe to throw away PrPro, then license the code from Apple, and create FCP8, which many previous users want. Oh wait, they have done almost that, just to get the FCP users to jump ship, regardless of what the loyal PrPro users were accustomed to.
Maybe all you have to do is wait a bit, and soon PrPro will actually become FCP8?
Good luck,
Hunt

Lion - I have to say I should have stayed with Snow Leopard

I am not a huge of Lion at all. In Snow Leopard and using Parallels I could print, email and work flawlessly. But I made the stupid decision to upgrade to Lion and now I cannot for the life of me print From Parallels at all now. THIS *****!!! In a company where printing large sheets in a MUST - it dissappoints me that I cannot use my machine as I need it to be used. I think Apple needs to reconsider their operatig system....
I miss Snow Leopard...
Angela
PS That is Lion, Parallels 7, Windows 7 and HP Designjet 500 42-inch. I can print just fine from Mac but not Parallels (this set up worked great on Snow Leopard/Parallels 7)

I have not had any problems setting up any printer, so far, from Lion with Vmware Fusion and Win XP. Or from Win 7 on PC. And I use a Designjet 500 also
You are not doing something right. If you upgraded to Lion over Snow Leopard you may have to Re-install Parallels, latest version, Load your Win 7 Virtual Machine (in Fusion I can save the complete Win OS anywhere on my system or network and then copy it back and run it) and then re-Install the print drivers for your printer.

Opinions please on Lion or stay with snow leopard.

I have a 24in imac with a 2.8intel core 2 duo w/ 2 g of ram. Everything works perfectly now and after weeks of browsing the discussions and the web I am really afraid to upgrade to lion. The only reason I might have to is because of all my .mac /.me mail accounts. After years of use most of my mail accounts are with mobile me and I would be lost trying to change everyone of them. I moved all my galleries to Picassa and I never used idisk. Does anyone with this computer and processor have anything encouraging to say about lion? Many have said it slowed their computers down considerably. Thank you for any advice.

Lion will not slow down your computer unless you do not have adequate RAM. 2 GBs is the required minimum, but practically you need at least 4 GBs. That said unless you have some specific need to use Lion there's no need to upgrade. Eventually you will have to if you want to use iCloud.
How to Install Lion Successfully - You must have Snow Leopard 10.6.7 or 10.6.8 Installed
A. Repair the Hard Drive and Permissions:
Boot from your Snow Leopard Installer disc. After the installer loads select your language and click on the Continue button. Then select Disk Utility from the Utilities. After DU loads select your hard drive entry (mfgr.'s ID and drive size) from the the left side list. In the DU status area you will see an entry for the S.M.A.R.T. status of the hard drive. If it does not say "Verified" then the hard drive is failing or failed. (SMART status is not reported on external Firewire or USB drives.) If the drive is "Verified" then select your OS X volume from the list on the left (sub-entry below the drive entry,) click on the First Aid tab, then click on the Repair Disk button. If DU reports any errors that have been fixed, then re-run Repair Disk until no errors are reported. If no errors are reported click on the Repair Permissions button. Wait until the operation completes, then quit DU and return to the installer. Now restart normally.
If DU reports errors it cannot fix, then you will need Disk Warrior (4.3.) if DW cannot fix the drive, then you will need to reformat the drive and reinstall Snow Leopard.
B. Make a Bootable Backup Using Restore Option of Disk Utility:
Open Disk Utility from the Utilities folder.
Select the destination volume from the left side list.
Click on the Restore tab in the DU main window.
Check the box labeled Erase destination.
Select the destination volume from the left side list and drag it to the Destination entry field.
Select the source volume from the left side list and drag it to the Source entry field.
Double-check you got it right, then click on the Restore button.
Destination means the backup volume. Source means the internal startup volume.
C. Important: Please read before installing:
If you have a FireWire hard drive connected, disconnect it before installing the update unless you will boot from this drive and install the update on it. Reconnect it and turn it back on after installation is complete and you've restarted.
You may experience unexpected results if you have installed third-party system software modifications, or if you have modified the operating system through other means. (This does not apply to normal application software installation.)
The installation process should not be interrupted. If a power outage or other interruption occurs during installation, use the standalone installer (see below) from Apple Downloads to update. While the installation is in progress do not use the computer.
D. To upgrade to Lion:
Purchase the Lion Installer from the Mac App Store. The download will start quickly. Lion is nearly 4 GBs so a fast internet connection is essential. Download time could run upwards of 4 hours depending upon network conditions and server demands at the time.
Boot From The Lion Installer which is located in your Applications folder.
Follow instructions for installation.

New MBP - should I stay with Snow Leopard or jump to Lion?

Running Final Cut Studio 3 I have just upgraded our older MBP15 Core Duo to a nearly new MBP15 Quad-core i7. I will install FCS3 on it and wonder if Lion is stable with FCS now? Any thoughts?
Paul Shard
Producer - Distant Shores - www.distantshores.ca

I agree with Robert .. You really need to ask yourself why you would need Lion. I have a total of 7 various MACs from MBP to Air's and MAC Pro all stillrunning Snow Lep ..all because it does all I need and I can use FCS3 in a very stable and workflow way that suits me. I know the foibles and have no need for FXPX either. I see Robert runs both and have read on many occasions other doing the same. I have also read others having issues .. it seems to be dependant on how you upgrade .. I have no need so do not change .. I also drive a four year old car for the same reason ..
Jim
http://jimkells.com

Syncing Photos to Macbook Pro with Snow Leopard 10.6.1 from iPhone 4s

With my iPhone 4s plugged into the Macbook It will backup and sync using iTunes but when I click on the device icon on the left it wants to set up a MobileMe account and the iPhone has iCloud turned on. I want to stay with Snow Leopard 10.6.1 Is there any way to get the photos on the iPhone accessible? Thanks.
Also The iPhone isn't coming up on my desktop.

Thanks
In iTunes my iPhone is located under devices,named and selectable. In iPhoto the logo is there but no name and no pictures coming up.
Suggestions are appreciated i recently switched from pc and blackberry

Mac Pro will not boot with Snow Leopard - need help!

I have had a lot of issues with Snow Leopard since I upgraded from 10.5.8. Most of my problems started after installing Office 2007. I finally wiped the hard drive and reinstalled everything. No problems until last week. Start up was taking longer and had to reboot a couple of times because of grey screen. So I would just put computer to sleep. Yesterday the computer was frozen on screen saver with scrambled rows of pixels on screen two and the main monitor had a frozen image.
I initially pulled all peripherals out and pulled the power plug for 5 minutes. I have left the peripherals out and pulled the second monitor as well. I tried pulling the power plug during a few more starts but nothing gets me to a complete start up screen.
I have tried resetting PRAM and VRAM and tried a safe boot. I tried booting from Snow Leopard and my Leopard disk stayed on either a blue or gray screen with spinning beach ball (on gray screen).
Put original install disk in and booted from using D to check the hardware. Good news is that the hardware test was OK. I did the extended test.
All different kind of start up problems.
- Some start with start up sound goes to Apple logo to blue screen to grey screen with beachball
- Some start ups with no initial sound then Apple logo to blue screen to grey screen with no cursor or beachball
- Some start ups with no sound to gray screen to blue screen to grey screen.
I have no problem wiping the HD1 again but I can't even get the OS disk to be recognized with holding the C key during start up. This last time it went to a blue screen (holding the C key) and a cursor.
I don't know what else to do - Please help!!!

There are lists (MacIntouch and MacFixit) of hardware / software support issues with 10.6. Accelerateyourmac is another place to watch.
There were some really long threads back in Sept about printer driver support.
The 7300 firmware was more about Windows support; those cards are failing and dropping like flies (how DO they know 3 yrs has expired anyway?) and they don't support SL features like OpenCL etc so I'd invest in ATI 4870, best graphic card and works in all models Mac Pro.
Lots and lots of bootable clones for backup. Never need to wipe and install again.

Need to get game to work on macbook with snow leopard?

Downloaded Civilization Vfrom the app store on my macbook pro with lion, then moved it (via flash drive) to my macbook with snow leopard. When I open it, it asks me for the apple ID I downloaded it with, but after that it never opens or stays in the dock. Its like its killed the second it opens. Is there a way I can force it to stay open?

We need to know which model you have. To see which model you have go to the Apple in the upper left corner and select About This Mac, then click on More Info. When the System Profiler comes up check the Model Identifier. Then post that information back here.
Civilization V Minimum System Requirements
Operating System: 10.6.8 (Snow Leopard)
CPU Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo (Dual-Core)
CPU Speed: 1.8 GHz
Memory: 512 MB
Video Memory (VRam): 256 MB
Hard Disk Space: 3 GB
Video Card: ATI Radeon HD 2400 / Geforce 8600

M-Audio MIDISPORT UNO USB Not Working With Snow Leopard

My Snow Leopard installation worked fine except until I plugged in my MacBook to my Casio Privia with the M=Audio MIDISPORT UNO USB cable to run GarageBand. I'm getting a MIDI error which states it can't work with the latest operating system. It doesn't surprise me though for all the software and hardware driver updates that have to catch up to such a new OSX 10.6. I went to the M-Audio site to download the latest driver, but the drivers only were compatible with OSX10.5.8.
This is an alert at the site
Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard Support Coming Soon
Avid/M-Audio working closely with Apple to offer support for OS X 10.6
Avid/M-Audio is pleased to hear that Apple has released Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard. We’ve been working closely with Apple to bring Snow Leopard support to the M-Audio® product line, as well as the Pro Tools® product line and extended product families. We ask that all existing Mac users please wait to upgrade until we officially announce Snow Leopard support. Stay tuned for more information in the coming weeks.
This is a bit of a concern, because I need to get GarageBand running again with the MIDI hook ups. Is there a work around anyone knows about to get MIDI working with Snow Leopard.
Thanks Steve

I ran into a similar problem. I discovered one thing which may help you out though. It works OK with my Yamaha P200 keyboard but it does not work with my Yamaha NP30 keyboard. I looked at the MIDI stream and the only difference seems to be that the NP30 sends a continuous stream of MIDI clock, whereas the P200 does not. My theory is that this clock stream is somehow confusing the driver. I can't seem to disable the MIDI clock on my NP30 but if your Privia has the ability to disable MIDI clock, then it may be worth a try as it will probably fix the problem until they come out with the proper drivers.

IMac with Snow Leopard - Mail 4.5 not downloading e-mails

Hi there,
I am using an iMac with Snow Leopard 10.6.8, which has Mail 4.5 on it. Since yesterday, my Mail application will no longer download e-mails. When I open it, the little tray in the corner says it is downloading message 26 of 26, but after it finishes, nothing happens. No new Mail has been downloaded. It keeps doing this, even after a reboot (I have double-checked that the order of my Mail hasn't changed, and it isn't just showing at the bottom).
Today, I removed my Gmail account from Mail, and added it again. I entered my Gmail username/password. Once set up, it proceeds to download e-mails (downloading 1 of 26). The thing is, it has shown this constantly for the last 20 minutes. I don't even have big recent e-mails.
I'm not sure what I can do to resolve this, would appreciate any suggestions.
Many thanks.
P.S. I don't think it's a Gmail problem, as I have a MacBook Air with Lion, and Mail is downloading all e-mails on it without any issues.

Hi Zak,
Could be many things, we should start with this...
"Try Disk Utility
1. Insert the Mac OS X Install disc, then restart the computer while holding the C key.
2. When your computer finishes starting up from the disc, choose Disk Utility from the Installer menu at top of the screen. (In Mac OS X 10.4 or later, you must select your language first.)
*Important: Do not click Continue in the first screen of the Installer. If you do, you must restart from the disc again to access Disk Utility.*
3. Click the First Aid tab.
4. Select your Mac OS X volume.
5. Click Repair Disk, (not Repair Permissions). Disk Utility checks and repairs the disk."
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106214
Then try a Safe Boot, (holding Shift key down at bootup), run Disk Utility in Applications>Utilities, then highlight your drive, click on Repair Permissions, reboot when it completes.
(Safe boot may stay on the gray radian for a long time, let it go, it's trying to repair the Hard Drive.)
If perchance you can't find your install Disc, at least try it from the Safe Boot part onward.

Where can I get a version of Aperture compatible with Snow Leopard?

I have Snow Leopard (10.6) on my iMAC and I did not upgrade to Lion as it is good enough for what I do with my iMAC.
Unfortunately, the Aperture version available in the App Store recommends MAC OS 1.7 or later.
Is there a previous version of Aperture, which is compatible with Snow Leopard (10.6), still available?
If so, where can I get it?
Thank you in advance to the Apple community.
Philippe

As keith alluded to if you stay with SL and get a version of Aperture that runs on it you will be locked into that. There will be no more updates for Aperture or the Raw Camera bundle.
So if that version of Aperture supports your camera and you have no plans to change cameras to something that is not supported in that version then you will be fine.
If you think you might be getting a new camera at some point then you might just want to bit the bullet and do the upgrades now.
regards

Facebook video chat on Macbook with Snow Leopard-Experience???

I have a Macbook with Snow Leopard 10.6.8, Safari for browser.
I'm looking for users of the same who have used or tried to use Facebook video chat and would love to know if it was a good experience or were there any problems and if so what were the nature of those problems?
Thanks,
Janie

No Sir, I am not having problems with FaceBook and this Granny isn't taking a survey or poll. I gave all the information I did so that I could get the proper "help". I am not planning to upgrade to Lion and thus cannot have iCloud. I have moved my mail from MobileMe to iCloud but I am not sure that I will be able to use my iChat once MobileMe ends on June 30 and I am looking at alternatives to staying in touch wit my children and grandchildren. I am limited in knowledge but I do know that some apps from FaceBook arent's so good. I want to be sure that I don't download anything that would be incompatible with my Mac and my version/browser, etc. Just trying to avoid problems and keep my Mac in good working order. I thought there might be somebody out there that would know the answer to my question.

I have a macbook pro and the software with snow leopard only has upgraded to 10.5.8, do I need to purchase mountain lion to upgrade to 10.6.8?

I have a macbook pro and the software with snow leopard only has upgraded to 10.5.8, do I need to purchase mountain lion to upgrade to 10.6.8?

Your machine likely can't handle Mountain Lion 10.8 nor 10.7, if it does it will run slow and very higly likely a lot of your third party software and drivers for printers and scanners won't function anymore.
It's because your 10.5 era (or earlier) machine is rather dated, hardware has advanced and is faster, the newer OS X versions have gotten bloated.
I do recommend you call Apple via phone and order the 10.6.3 white retail disks, backup your personal data off the 10.5.8 Mac to a external storage drive and when the disk arrives, stick it in and run the upgrade installer.
Once that's finished, reboot and use Software Update to get to 10.6.8 and stay there. You can buy stuff from AppStore, just don't upgrade to 10.8 (or 10.7) as thats when you'll have issues.
10.6 should run your currrently installed PPC software and hardware drivers. But 10.7/10.8 will not.
10.6 is receiving security and other updates from Apple as more than 50% of OSX users are still on it.
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Lion successfully installed. now unable to get on vpn using cisco, error 51 constantly appears. should have stayed on snow leopard!

ion successfully installed. now unable to get on vpn using cisco, error 51 constantly appears. should have stayed on snow leopard!

Try opening a terminal window (Applications >> Utilities). At the prompt, enter:
>sudo SystemStarter restart CiscoVPN
This will ask you for the admin password and it will restart the Cisco client service. That should fix it. This seems to be a known issue that will eventually be solved with some updates.
DB

Does Mozy back-up work with Snow Leopard and File Vault turned on?

I have SL and also have turned File Vault on. I am wondering if Mozy online back-up will work with SL and more importantly, will it work if I have File Vault turned on?
Thanks!

Mozy works with Snow Leopard just fine. However, FileVault isn't supported well yet. From the release notes:
"If you are using FileVault, please turn off automatic and scheduled backups in the Mozy preferences. You will need to initiate the backup process manually while you are logged in. We are working on a better way to support FileVault."
If you stay logged in all the time, Mozy will function properly. If Mozy runs a backup while you are logged out, it isn't smart enough to do the right thing. FileVault mounts a disk image for your home folder when you're logged in and unmounts it when you log out. This causes Mozy to think you no longer need those files.
"We are working on a better way to support FileVault."

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