STEP 2 - COMPLETE TRAINING for OCP

Hi All,
For OCP 11g Certification, I have to appear for 2 exams, SQL & Administration I. After that I have to complete TRAINING and then appear for Administration II exam,
My question is,
Can i appear for Administration II and attend the Training later on?
Regards
H

There's no rule against doing what you suggest. However, I cannot for the life of me see any reason why you should to do it that way. Passing the test without the training won't get you the certification, so what is the point of taking the test? In addition, the training is targeted specifically to the exam, so without it, you will be more likely to fail the test. If you pass the first two, you will have your OCA. My recommendation would be to save for the training at that point. When you can take the training, do so and then take the test.
I suppose that you could show your test scores to an employer and tell that that you would be an OCP if only you'd taken the training. How much benefit that would be to you is a big question mark.

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