Stereo to 5.1 Surround Mix

How does one convert a stereo file to a 5.1 surround mix.
I've read through the various discussions & searched the web but have not been able to get help about this topic specific to Logic Pro.
I've got a 5.1 setup with all the panning done & I know about the bouncing of files for export.
My question is how does one actually convert the stereo file into 5 seperate files that sound right when played out together. What filters & setting must I use (delay, phase shift, levels) so as not to create an echo effect.
Any help or guidance will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks

depends on what you want to do by using surround.
talking about a music recording you can't simply convert a stereo recording into a 5.1 recording since you'd have to record to 5.1 in the first place. that means if you're recording an orchestra you need a 5.1 main system such as oct or oct2 or decca tree plus two mics to the back...that's necessary to capture the room's response.
of course you can always use digital (reverb) processing to beef up a stereo mix and add an artificial room response. but the results might be less than satisfactory.
and if you're into film sound you might want to have that airplane over your head...so you'd simply pan it.
i think you need to give us more input according to what you really want to do to get a useful answer...

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the Li've!Surround option for speaker settings in not showing in my Surround Mixer
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Installed the speaker preset for li've!surround but the only headphone, 2 speaker, 4 speaker, and 5. speaker shows up on speaker configuration of the Surround Mixer
i've played the AC3 files on the cdrom and Dolby pro logic surround, I get sound from all fi've speakers on my Denon D-850 w/ Dolby surround pro-logic
I can't use the surround mixer to test all the speakers, only front left and right speakers work on the test, i have to open to wav files directly to test the center speaker, the rear speaker test doesn't work from the wav file
My Denon system only has analog stereo inputs, so this is my only option for letting Sound Blaster know I have 5 speakers.
I've uninstalled all SB Li've software and drivers from the unipack, and reinstalled the orignal drivers and apps from the CD-ROM SBP5-CDSD-W-US MID : 32680 5-Sep-2000 and the Li've!Surround speaker setting reappears in the Surround Mixer.
Is the Li've!Surround setting no longer available in the new Surround Mixer in Li'veDrvUni-Pack (English) SBLW-XPWEB-W4-US 28-Feb-03 ?
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so I found this post...
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...7?dmode=source
it seems Li've Surround is no longer supported in the new drivers
....so what would be the best setting to play ac3 files or DVD's through my receiver with only 2 analog inputs (left and right) available w/ Dolby surround prologic. Should I set it to 2 speaker or 4 speaker setting in the Surround Mixer in order to send the best signal to the prologic decoder on my receiver with 5 speakers (2 front, center, 2 rear)

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I've never used STP, but I'm hoping you experts can help. I've posted this question in the FCP forum but got no respsonse. So I did a little more searching and realized this might be a better place for the question.
My goal is to take two-channel HD video, add a stereo music track, and produce something that sounds good in full surround. Is there any good tutorial on how I might make a modestly better surround mix? I'm not trying to win an Oscar here, or become a sound engineer. So simpler is better, please.
I've worked out a way to put surround sound into my HD movie, burn it to a DVD AVCHD using Toast, and get it all to play on a blu-ray player, Cool!! It looks great and has 5.1 Dolby Digital surround, all on a cheap DVD disk. I get about 30 minutes on the disk.
But now I realize I don't know jack about how to make it sound good. All I've tried so far is putting a stereo song into the surround speakers with the movie stereo in the fronts as usual. It's pretty cool, but it isn't exactly "immersive".
I think I might get a better result using an upmixing tool such as Upmix 1.1.1 from Cycling '74 (or is it KVR Audio?) to simulate 3D sound from my 2D source materials.
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My surround experiments test results:
Content: Two stereo tracks, a movie and a song.
Objective: Make a nice surround mix, something better than sending both tracks only to the fronts
Tools: Soundtrack Pro, Compressor 2.3.1 I have no system for "live" surround playback and no software designed to simplify front-rear fades and 3D sound placement. To test any mix, I have to burn it to disk and preview it on my (calibrated 7.1) home theater system.
*Hold Fixed:* No change was made to the stereo pan of either stereo pair. In all tests I let Compressor create a center mix at -3dB and a LFE using its low-pass filter checkbox.
*Experimental Design:* I have just four levers to pull - the level of each stereo pair in the front and in the rear. To simply testing, I used just 3 levels, 0 dB (no change), -3 dB and off, -∞. Four variables at 3 levels gives you 81 total combinations. Since I have to burn to disk, I can't run all those. Many tests can be eliminated as nonsensical, eg. the one test with all levels at -∞. Further eliminating the combinations that give level totals that are obviously too low or too extreme, I was left with 8 mixes I actually tested:
Movie Music
_F / R F/R Comment_
1. 0 -∞ -∞ 0 Uncomfortable, too "obvious"
2. -3 0 0 0 music a little dominant
3. -3 0 0 -3 music too front
4. 0 -3 0 0 not bad, music more forward than #6
5. 0 0 0 -3 music too front
6. 0 -3 -3 0 my favorite - very smooth transition when music starts
7. 0 0 -3 0 music too rear, oddly
8. 0 0 0 0 result pending
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I'm wondering if I can make use of my home theater system to do surround mixing, or if I need an interface with discrete outputs.
I'm doing surround composition, so it would work great if I could do my initial stereo mix on my monitors, and then get a good surround mix preview using my home theater setup.
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Thanks, Rick.
That is actually what I did - create folders and move topics into them. I also created a TOC - for a more streamlined navigation through the online help. (Otherwise, the folder names appear in the navigation, which is 'clunky'.) I suppose the TOC is also used for the creation of PDF output, although I am not sure. Anyway... it works... and I have a topic hierarchy - in my Project 'pod' and TOC.
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Mary
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/Re: Audigy 2 ZS and Surround Mixer in Windows 7? i got problem with recording any sound. Recorded sounds are terrible. Sometimes playing sounds are terrible too. i should restart pc for fix playing terrible sound.
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>Re: How do I get my old Surround Mixer recording sources back?p audiodrome,
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