Still no Chapter Points in Encore

I've made two projects with PPro2 with markers to be used as chapter points for Encore 2. (Both projects have text in the chapter marker box.) The first project's timeline imported into Encore just fine, including the ten chapter markers. For some reason, when importing the second project's timeline into Encore, the chapter markers don't follow. The only difference in my workflow was that the first show was converted to Desktop editing mode by mistake. The project was originally made with PPro 1.5. I opened it in PPro2 before installing the new Matrox Xtools software for PPro2 which lead to Ppro2 changing the editing mode to Desktop.
I've got a good command of both programs and have read the various discussion hear. Have tried several different clips and tests to try and finds some relationship, but have hit a wall.
Suggestions greatly appreciated.

In PPro2, I'm exporting a timeline to avi, then importing that avi as a timeline into Encore2. Installing Matrox Xtools and changing PPRo2 editing mode from "Desktop" to "Matrox rt.xntsc" is the only system change I've recently made. As mentioned before, I had imported chapter points into Encore2 successfully before installing the Xtools and changing the editing mode.

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http://tv.adobe.com/watch/learn-encore-cs4/creating-an-event-dvd/
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