Still no threaded discussions in iCloud webmail??

.... How rubbish is that?? Come on Apple it's years overdue now.
Obviously it means I wouldn't have to upgrade to OSX 10.7.x to be able to use Mail with iCloud to get this functionality ... so it's basically another Apple effort to put us through the pain and cost of another upgrade....
Not what I expect from Apple, this is such basic webmail functionality.

snozdop wrote:
My understanding of a "cloud" application is that it is by definition OS-independant.
Yeah, but iCloud isn't a completely "cloud"-only service. To get full functionality, you need iCloud software on your computer or iOS device (either by installing the iCloud Control Panel on a PC, or by using a version of OS X / iOS that has iCloud built-in).
There are many features of iCloud which are not offered at iCloud.com.
Yep, I get that - that's the distinction I was drawing between Web/Cloud applications and wider Web/Cloud services - which also exist to enhance the functionality of non-Cloud/on-machine applications.
The iCloud.com website, is intended as a secondary method for getting basic access to your contacts, calendars, notes, email etc. when NOT using your Mac or iOS device. It is not intended to be the primary way of using iCloud. You need a compatible Mac or iOS device just to create an iCloud account. If iCloud.com were intended to be the primary way to use iCloud, don't you think Apple would give users a way to sign up there too?
if Apple are going to offer these standalone Web applications, including a Web mail service, then I at least expect them to provide robust basic functionality.
They do. Mail at iCloud.com allows you "basic functionality" to read and reply to your email. Threaded conversations are not required to have basic email functionality. Yes, it might be desirable, but it's certainly not a basic function of email - more of an added extra.
Again, I understand your point and it's perfectly valid - this just boils down to a difference of opinion on what constitutes "basic" functionality ... very happy to agree to disagree on this one, your opinion is as valid as mine!
Now -while we're on Cloud stuff - don't get me started on how iTunes Match tried to take over my iPhone Music app !!!! see here
... but all fixed now (touch wood)

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Is the iCloud webmail server down?
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Hello,
Having some trouble staying logged into iCloud webmail as of 3:30pm ET Tuesday 06/17/14.
Every time I sign in it signs me out only seconds after logging on. This is happening on my 2013 iMac 27. I'm logging in through my Chrome browser.
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Still no threaded discussions in iCloud webmail??

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