Still trying to understand iPhoto's trash

So I have decided to get really organized in iPhoto and am using the Albums to do my main organization to create slide shows etc. I chose Albums over Events because I could not move the photos around in Events.
Then I started deleting away the shots I thought were not good. Just so happens I was a little to delete-key happy and I deleted some that I shouldn't have.
Now I go to iphoto trash. First I cannot look at the photos at a large scale by double clicking on it. When I use the toggle at the bottom to enlarge all photos I quickly loose track of the photo I was wanting to look at. Even if that photo is selected it still does not center the enlargement on that photo. (annoying)
So to look at it I have to restore it or move it back to the library. Being a person who is using Albums to organize my photos, I would have preferred to move it directly into the Album. Not possible.
Now what I have deciphered as the only way to get out of this mess ...
First I have to restore the photo then go back to Events and find that single photo in the mix of hundreds of other photos, and then if it is indeed the photo I was looking for, then I move it back to the Album.
This is sure a lot of work, and makes me rather disenchanted with iPhoto. I think it should be easier than this!
So my questions :
Are Albums the right way to organizing photos in iPhoto, or is there a better way? And why can't we organize and move photos around simply in Events?
Is it possible to indefinitely delete one photo from the trash and not empty the whole trash in iPhoto?
I have not found a conversion feature in iPhoto similiar to iTunes... for example sometimes I have some photos which I would like to keep in high resolution, but others I could reduce their size to make space. I know I can use photoshop to do this but its very time-consuming. Is there another way to batch process photos?
thanks for taking the time answer my questions!

Melissa
Welcome to the Apple user to user assistance forums
Are Albums the right way to organizing photos in iPhoto, or is there a better way?
Yes - albums and smart albums( using keywords) are the way. When you keyword and rate your photos smart albums become very powerful
And why can't we organize and move photos around simply in Events?
Because that is not the way iPhoto works - this is a user forum and we can tell you how it works - you need to talk to Apple about why it works like it does and to suggest changes - iPhoto menu ==> provide iPhoto feedback
Is it possible to indefinitely delete one photo from the trash and not empty the whole trash in iPhoto?
No
I have not found a conversion feature in iPhoto similiar to iTunes... for example sometimes I have some photos which I would like to keep in high resolution, but others I could reduce their size to make space. I know I can use photoshop to do this but its very time-consuming. Is there another way to batch process photos?
iPhoto always keeps the original, the digital negative - you can not change that
LN

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If Terence jumps in, he can probably explain this better but...
Among other things, there's an "Originals" folder that contains the original (surprise) "out of the camera" files. IF you modify any photos, the modified version will go into (surprise, again) a "Modified" folder. In addition, there's a "Data" folder that contains small thumbnails versions.
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I have tried to use options command and click on iphoto then rebuild yet nothing happens and same error message occurs.
I have gone to my personal drive, desktop, iphoto library, and found file Albumdata.xml and when i click on it, there is a lot of text in it, i am assuming these are all my photos.
I have tried clicking and dragging this file to iphoto app and it doesn't work, as the same error comes up in iphoto being in use or unreadable....
What am I meant to do with albumdata.xml file and how do I reopen Iphoto from here on in?
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Exactly how were you trying to save a copy of your iPhoto library?
Albumdata.xml does not contain your photos - and again NEVER make any changes to the content of the iPhoto library - no dragging - no changes - never go into the library
We need to know exactly what you did
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For reference after you get things working
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And be sure that the External drive is formatted Mac OS extended (journaled) (iPhoto does not work with drives with other formats) and that it is always available prior to launching iPhoto
And backup soon and often - having your iPhoto library on an external drive is not a backup and if you are using Time Machine you need to check and be sure that TM is backing up your external drive
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1. Import and deleting pics are more complex procedures
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Regards
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