Stop-Motion sticking after 21 frames

Hi,
I teaching my art class stop motion animation at the moment, in the past I have had no problems with imovie, but this year 2 students are experiencing their movie sticking after 21 frames. The movie looks as if it continues to play until the end but the picture pauses on frame 21. Does anyone have any idea what causes this?
Thanks in advance for your help.

The things you are talking about doing sound better-suited for a video editing program like Premiere. After Effects is not intended to edit video.
That being said, if you want to use After Effects for its compositing and motion graphics capabilities, you should really start here: http://adobe.ly/AE_basics
You've already been confused by how playback works and there are many more little things that will frustrate you if you don't get a good, solid foundation in how to use the software.
And, for forum readers of the future who may have a similar question, you initiate a RAM preview by pressing 0 on your number pad. More info about previewing video and audio here and in the link I gave earlier.
If you want to make a frame last longer, you could use Time Remapping on an image sequence or a composition that contains your stills instead of trying to move layers around by hand.
Now, to your issue of it not playing everything, is your composition long enough? If it is, but it's just not RAM previewing the whole thing, read this.

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Im just starting a new job, and will be creating a handful of films for my new employer.
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1) What program does one use to play all the individual pictures taken to create the stop motion animation? In other words, once I have shot all the individual pictures of the objects I want to animate, and am ready to organize them and set a playback speed, what program would I use? Do most people just throw all the pictures into final cut and do it that way?? Or is there a better program?
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frisbee681 wrote:
Hi,
Im just starting a new job, and will be creating a handful of films for my new employer.
I want to create something interesting, and have been leaning towards stop motion animation.
Congratulations on the job. Not many of them out there.
frisbee681 wrote:
1) What program does one use to play all the individual pictures taken to create the stop motion animation? In other words, once I have shot all the individual pictures of the objects I want to animate, and am ready to organize them and set a playback speed, what program would I use? Do most people just throw all the pictures into final cut and do it that way?? Or is there a better program?
Easy to search the app store, as mentioned, or just google stop motion for macintosh. Mastering the application is easy. Learning how to animate is where you need to start.
frisbee681 wrote:
2) How do you cut portions of pictures / drawings / frames out to allow for a deep layering effect? I figure most people take each frame and manipulate it individually using photoshop (cutting portions of an image out so something else can be seen through the void). But is there a better way??
In the odlen days, we used multiplane stages. Each set of drawings was placed on a glass stage, one under the other. INcredibly fun, absurdly difficult to keep clean and properly lit. Now all of that stuff is done with alpha channels and compositing software like Motion or Afer Effects.
frisbee681 wrote:
For example, lets say I have two crecent shaped pieces of black paper, and I want them to move towards each other from the left and right sides of the screen, and eventually completely obscure whatever is going on in the background behind the paper images. First I would take a series of pictures, moving the pieces of paper in small increments, until they closed the gap and overlapped each other. From that point, I would lay down whatever video I wanted playing in the background into the timeline. Next, I would import the series of photos with the pieces of paper moving towards each other - then comes the problem. The portion of the pictures used for the animation that is NOT PAPER would be obscuring my background video. So at this point, is it easier to shoot the animation against a white background and just chroma key the white out? Or do most people cut the non paper part out using photoshop? or is there a better way?
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