Storage Spaces - Disk Removal
Hello All,
I have an install of Server 2012 R2. I am running Storage Spaces in a parity with a number of drives.
I had a drive failing, so I set it to retired, and began a repair job.
Midway through the repair job, the disk failed.
I no longer seem to have the ability to bring the Virtual Disk back to healthy.
Some PS outputs;
PS C:\Users\Administrator> Get-PhysicalDisk | ? OperationalStatus -ne OK | fl
ObjectId : {1}\\ZEUS\root/Microsoft/Windows/Storage/Providers_v2\SPACES_PhysicalDisk.ObjectId="
{ed8bbb6f-d7b2-11e3-80b5-806e6f6e6963}:PD:{189a158c-fd27-11e3-80c9-806e6f6e6963}"
PassThroughClass :
PassThroughIds :
PassThroughNamespace :
PassThroughServer :
UniqueId :
AllocatedSize : 239712862208
BusType : Unknown
CannotPoolReason : In a Pool
CanPool : False
Description :
DeviceId :
EnclosureNumber :
FirmwareVersion :
FriendlyName : PhysicalDisk-1
HealthStatus : Warning
IsIndicationEnabled :
IsPartial : False
LogicalSectorSize : 0
Manufacturer :
MediaType : UnSpecified
Model :
OperationalStatus : Lost Communication
OtherCannotPoolReasonDescription :
PartNumber :
PhysicalLocation :
PhysicalSectorSize : 0
SerialNumber :
Size : 499289948160
SlotNumber :
SoftwareVersion :
SpindleSpeed : 0
SupportedUsages : {Auto-Select, Manual-Select, Hot Spare, Retired...}
Usage : Retired
PSComputerName :
PS C:\Users\Administrator> Get-PhysicalDisk | ? OperationalStatus -ne OK | get-virtualdisk
FriendlyName ResiliencySettingNa OperationalStatus HealthStatus IsManualAttach
Size
me
Array Parity Degraded Warning
True 12.4 TB
PS C:\Users\Administrator> get-physicaldisk
FriendlyName CanPool OperationalStatus HealthStatus Usage
Size
PhysicalDisk2 False OK Healthy
Auto-Select 2.73 TB
PhysicalDisk6 False OK Healthy
Auto-Select 930.25 GB
PhysicalDisk20 False OK Healthy
Auto-Select 464 GB
PhysicalDisk21 False OK Healthy
Auto-Select 464 GB
PhysicalDisk-1 False Lost Communication Warning Retired
465 GB
PhysicalDisk1 False OK Healthy
Auto-Select 2.73 TB
PhysicalDisk17 False OK Healthy
Auto-Select 929.75 GB
PhysicalDisk19 False OK Healthy
Auto-Select 929.75 GB
PhysicalDisk7 False OK Healthy
Auto-Select 930.25 GB
PhysicalDisk18 False OK Healthy
Auto-Select 929.75 GB
PhysicalDisk22 False OK Healthy
Auto-Select 147.25 GB
PhysicalDisk0 False OK Healthy
Auto-Select 1.82 TB
PhysicalDisk3 False OK Healthy
Auto-Select 1.82 TB
PhysicalDisk23 False OK Healthy
Auto-Select 232.25 GB
PhysicalDisk5 False OK Healthy
Auto-Select 929.75 GB
PhysicalDisk8 False OK Healthy
Auto-Select 277.75 GB
PhysicalDisk9 False OK Healthy
Auto-Select 277.75 GB
PhysicalDisk10 False OK Healthy
Auto-Select 277.75 GB
PhysicalDisk11 False OK Healthy
Auto-Select 277.75 GB
PhysicalDisk12 False OK Healthy
Auto-Select 277.75 GB
PhysicalDisk13 False OK Healthy
Auto-Select 277.75 GB
PhysicalDisk14 False OK Healthy
Auto-Select 277.75 GB
PhysicalDisk15 False OK Healthy
Auto-Select 277.75 GB
PhysicalDisk16 False OK Healthy
Auto-Select 277.75 GB
PhysicalDisk24 False OK Healthy
Auto-Select 232.25 GB
PhysicalDisk4 False OK Healthy
Auto-Select 136.12 GB
My current virtual disk is 12.4 TB, and I have 4.76TB free in the Storage Space.
Any ideas on how I can remedy this?
Thanks
Hi,
What kind of virtual disk are you currently using, simple, mirror or parity?
If it is simple virtual disk you may not able to repair it as it provide no redundance.
If it is parity or mirror, you need to add a new hard disk for replacing the failed disk before the virtual disk back to work.
However please run following cmdlet first:
get-virtualdisk -friendlyname <name> |FC
Check the NumberOfColumns property.
If it is not 1, you need to add more hard disks to get it back to work. See the last QA in this FAQ thread:
[Forum FAQ] Frequently Asked Questions for Storage Pool issues
http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/windowsserver/en-US/77d34855-cbe6-4ea7-b3cf-567a03580049/forum-faq-frequently-asked-questions-for-storage-pool-issues?forum=winserverfiles
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At line:1 char:1
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+ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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http://helgeklein.com/blog/2012/03/windows-8-storage-spaces-bugs-and-design-flaws/
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* Using the New Storage Pool Wizard, I cannot add more than 1 of the new 3 disks to a new Storage Pool (only PhysicalDisk26 is available). And the details incorrectly refer to PhysicalDisk21. See image (a WDC WD2500JD-22H is a 250GB disk, not a 4TB disk).
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According the blog post at http://blogs.msdn.com/b/b8/archive/2012/01/05/virtualizing-storage-for-scale-resiliency-and-efficiency.aspx:
Q) What is the minimum number of disks I can use to create a pool? What is the maximum?
You can create a pool with only one disk. However, such a pool cannot contain any resilient spaces (i.e. mirrored or parity spaces). It can only contain a simple space which does not provide resiliency to failures. We do test pools comprising multiple hundreds
of disks – such as you might see in a datacenter. There is no architectural limit to the number of disks comprising a pool.
However, the UI currently does not seem to correctly work with more than 21 physical disks. Please advise.
Using Server 2012 RC.
Hardware: Supermicro X8SAX (BIOS v2.0), Intel i7-920 2.67GHz, 6x 2GB DDR3-1333 (certified Crucial CT25664BA1339.16SFD)
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PS C:\Users\administrator.TROUNCE> Get-PhysicalDisk | format-list FriendlyName, UniqueId, ObjectId, BusType
FriendlyName : PhysicalDisk6
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ObjectId : {7ab38e00-ab87-11e1-bbbd-806e6f6e6963}
BusType : Fibre Channel
FriendlyName : PhysicalDisk7
UniqueId : 00280000004000001AE48E5088028D0D
ObjectId : {7ab38e02-ab87-11e1-bbbd-806e6f6e6963}
BusType : Fibre Channel
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BusType : Fibre Channel
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Hello ! i have a question about my Hard's Disc storage space. I have Mac book Pro 11" Retina with hard disk 120 GB . I want to make this update but its impossible because of no free space. And now i want to ask. Its 120 GB full space but i dont know how. It tells me lets say i have 30 GB movies but i dont have anything ! Can you help me with any way ? If i can do something to see what movies let's say means !
Thank you !!Hope this helps.
1. Empty Trash.
http://support.apple.com/kb/PH10677
2. Start up in Safe Mode
http://support.apple.com/kb/PH11212
3. Delete "Recovered Messages", if any.
Hold the option key down and click "Go" menu in the Finder menu bar.
Select "Library" from the dropdown.
Library > Mail > V2 > Mailboxes
Delete "Recovered Messages", if any.
Empty Trash. Restart.
4. Repair Disk
Steps 1 through 7
http://support.apple.com/kb/PH5836
5. Disk space / Time Machine ?/ Local Snapshots
http://support.apple.com/kb/ht4878
6. Re-index Macintosh HD
System Preferences > Spotlight > Privacy
http://support.apple.com/kb/ht2409
If this does not help, you have to buy an external HD and move your movies photos.etc to
the external HD.
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