Storage Spaces on WS2012R2 Server Essentials drive space error

So, I finally bit the bullet and retired my V1 Home Server in favor of building out a Windows Server 2012R2 Server Essentials box as a replacement. All seemed to go well with the install and so I built out a Storage Space (16 TB) using an external 8-bay
enclosure with about 14 TB of drives in it. The Space built out fine and I then moved my Server Folders to it which also went well.
At that point, I attached my 4 TB external drive that had my movie backups on it and started copying them over. After about a day and a half it is done, or so I thought. It copied over about 3.2 TB of data and now when I try to copy basically anything onto
the Storage Space, I get the following error message:
There is not enough space on <folder name>
xx.x GB is needed to copy this item. Delete or move files so you have enough space.
<folder name> is whatever the target folder name is and xx.x is whatever size the file or files add up to.
This then just has an option to Try Again, Skip or Cancel. Problem is, the drive only has a few TB of data on it and still shows mostly empty, yet I can't copy hardly anything to it. It seems to allow me to copy smaller files individually, but any larger
group of files, or a folder with larger files in it yield the error above.
Anybody have any ideas?

Hi,
What is the resiliency type of the virtual disk in the Storage Spaces? How much the free space of the virtual disk? The issue may because the free space of the virtual disk is less than 4 TB.
You could refer to the articles below to know more about the virtual disk size of different resiliency types:
Storage Spaces - Designing for Performance
https://social.technet.microsoft.com/wiki/contents/articles/15200.storage-spaces-designing-for-performance.aspx
Using the Storage Pools page in Server Manager to create storage spaces
http://blogs.technet.com/b/filecab/archive/2012/12/06/using-the-storage-pools-page-in-server-manager-to-create-storage-spaces.aspx
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PassThroughNamespace              :
PassThroughServer                 :
UniqueId                          : {47405101-f1b2-11e1-be68-00247e572b92}
AllocatedSize                     : 1912871059456
ClearOnDeallocate                 : False
EnclosureAwareDefault             : False
FriendlyName                      : StoragePool
IsClustered                       : False
IsPowerProtected                  : False
IsPrimordial                      : False
IsReadOnly                        : False
LogicalSectorSize                 : 4096
Name                              :
OtherOperationalStatusDescription :
OtherUsageDescription             :
PhysicalSectorSize                : 4096
ResiliencySettingNameDefault      : Mirror
Size                              : 1998770405376
SupportsDeduplication             : False
ThinProvisioningAlertThresholds   : {70}
WriteCacheSizeMax                 : 107374182400
WriteCacheSizeMin                 : 0
PSComputerName                    :
CimClass                          : ROOT/Microsoft/Windows/Storage:MSFT_StoragePool
CimInstanceProperties             : {ObjectId, PassThroughClass, PassThroughIds, PassThroughNamespace...}
CimSystemProperties               : Microsoft.Management.Infrastructure.CimSystemProperties
Usage                             : Other
OperationalStatus                 : OK
HealthStatus                      : Healthy
ProvisioningTypeDefault           : Fixed
SupportedProvisioningTypes        : {Thin, Fixed}
ReadOnlyReason                    : None
RepairPolicy                      : Parallel
RetireMissingPhysicalDisks        : Auto
WriteCacheSizeDefault             : Auto
FileSystem                        : Unknown
Version                           : Windows Server 2012 R2
ObjectId                          : {1}\\OFFICE-PC\root/Microsoft/Windows/Storage/Providers_v2\SPACES_StoragePool.Objec
                                    tId="{cef39ebe-7fba-11e3-8250-806e6f6e6963}:SP:{cef39ebf-7fba-11e3-8250-806e6f6e696
                                    3}"
PassThroughClass                  :
PassThroughIds                    :
PassThroughNamespace              :
PassThroughServer                 :
UniqueId                          : {cef39ebf-7fba-11e3-8250-806e6f6e6963}
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ClearOnDeallocate                 : False
EnclosureAwareDefault             : False
FriendlyName                      : Primordial
IsClustered                       : False
IsPowerProtected                  : False
IsPrimordial                      : True
IsReadOnly                        : False
LogicalSectorSize                 :
Name                              :
OtherOperationalStatusDescription :
OtherUsageDescription             :
PhysicalSectorSize                :
ResiliencySettingNameDefault      : Mirror
Size                              : 2120443895296
SupportsDeduplication             : False
ThinProvisioningAlertThresholds   : {70}
WriteCacheSizeMax                 : 107374182400
WriteCacheSizeMin                 : 0
PSComputerName                    :
CimClass                          : ROOT/Microsoft/Windows/Storage:MSFT_StoragePool
CimInstanceProperties             : {ObjectId, PassThroughClass, PassThroughIds, PassThroughNamespace...}
CimSystemProperties               : Microsoft.Management.Infrastructure.CimSystemProperties
Usage                             : Other
NameFormat                        :
OperationalStatus                 : Detached
HealthStatus                      : Unhealthy
ProvisioningType                  : Thin
ParityLayout                      : Unknown
Access                            : Read/Write
UniqueIdFormat                    : Vendor Specific
DetachedReason                    : Incomplete
WriteCacheSize                    : 0
ObjectId                          : {1}\\OFFICE-PC\root/Microsoft/Windows/Storage/Providers_v2\SPACES_VirtualDisk.Objec
                                    tId="{cef39ebe-7fba-11e3-8250-806e6f6e6963}:VD:{47405101-f1b2-11e1-be68-00247e572b9
                                    2}{4740510d-f1b2-11e1-be68-00247e572b92}"
PassThroughClass                  :
PassThroughIds                    :
PassThroughNamespace              :
PassThroughServer                 :
UniqueId                          : 0D514047B2F1E111BE6800247E572B92
AllocatedSize                     : 955898658816
FootprintOnPool                   : 1911797317632
FriendlyName                      : Storage space
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LogicalSectorSize                 : 4096
Name                              :
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OtherUsageDescription             :
PhysicalDiskRedundancy            : 1
PhysicalSectorSize                : 4096
RequestNoSinglePointOfFailure     : False
ResiliencySettingName             : Mirror
Size                              : 998579896320
UniqueIdFormatDescription         :
PSComputerName                    :
CimClass                          : ROOT/Microsoft/Windows/Storage:MSFT_VirtualDisk
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CimSystemProperties               : Microsoft.Management.Infrastructure.CimSystemProperties

They do not show up in Disk Manager. They're part of a Storage Space, and the Virtual Disk for said storage space is not attached for some reason. Please see the logs per above from the get-virtualdisk command, and see a brief version below
FriendlyName        ResiliencySettingNa OperationalStatus   HealthStatus        IsManualAttach
Size
                    me
Storage space       Mirror              Detached            Unhealthy
False                            930 GB

How storage spaces mirror onto multiple storage pool drives...

Tricky question to pose..
I currently have 2 * 2TB drives in a storage pool. I have a 2 TB storage space assigned to this pool (lets call them A and B). I have 2TB of mirrored storage across 4TB of drives. All is well...
If I add a third 2TB drive "C" to the storage pool, how will 2-way mirroring work now? My hope is that it will evenly mirror across each drive in the pool ( 1TB mirrored across A + B, 1TB across A+ C and 1TB across B + C) giving me effectively
3TB of mirrored storage.
If it does work as I hope, does the server rebalance the mirroring? Say I have already used 1.8GB of storage by the time I add in the 3rd drive, there is only 0.2GB on each of the morrored drives available. When I add in the 3rd drive, if the
server does not re-allocate, then I would only gain 0.4GB of storage (0.2GB A+C, 0.2GB B+C) leaving 1.4GB unusable.
If not as I hoped, how do I make use of the 3rd drive? I assume the 3rd drive is useless in that pool unless I do 3-way mirroring or I add another 4th drive?
Thanks, Mark.

Tricky question to pose..
I currently have 2 * 2TB drives in a storage pool. I have a 2 TB storage space assigned to this pool (lets call them A and B). I have 2TB of mirrored storage across 4TB of drives. All is well...
If I add a third 2TB drive "C" to the storage pool, how will 2-way mirroring work now? My hope is that it will evenly mirror across each drive in the pool ( 1TB mirrored across A + B, 1TB across A+ C and 1TB across B + C) giving me effectively
3TB of mirrored storage.
If it does work as I hope, does the server rebalance the mirroring? Say I have already used 1.8GB of storage by the time I add in the 3rd drive, there is only 0.2GB on each of the morrored drives available. When I add in the 3rd drive, if the
server does not re-allocate, then I would only gain 0.4GB of storage (0.2GB A+C, 0.2GB B+C) leaving 1.4GB unusable.
If not as I hoped, how do I make use of the 3rd drive? I assume the 3rd drive is useless in that pool unless I do 3-way mirroring or I add another 4th drive?
Thanks, Mark.
A Storage Spaces mirror configuration stores 2 copies of each data block on 2 different physical drives. However, it does not balance the data. So in your specific example, adding a third drive to a mirror environment won't help much.
You would really need to add a fourth 2 TB drive at the same time.
You can get more info on Storage Spaces here.

Storage Spaces on WS2012R2 Server Essentials drive space error

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