Straight answer on clock & last played in 2G Shuffle

I can't seem to find a straight answer to this question anywhere:
Does the 2G Shuffle have a clock so that it can update the "Last Played" field in iTunes correctly?

I checked before I answered by looking at the last played date / times in my library for the tracks I listed to last night on my shuffle.
All the tracks I had listed to had the exact same date / time, which was the tiem I did the sync back to the computer, not the time I listen to the tracks.
Not sure if the first generation shuffle did this as I can't remember and don;t have one anymore to check.
Ian

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ITunes Last Played time off by 1 Hour

Hi Guyz,
I am on SE Asia Time (GMT+7) and my PC clock is set correctly, but every time I play song in iTUnes, it's Last Played time is off (earlier) by exactly 1 Hour.
Anyone why it's doing that.
Example
Now it's 18:27 and the song will say last played 17:27
Strange
Thanks

Hi Ed2345,
Thanks for taking the time to reply
I just did a "recheck Windows Update" and the only missing (hidden) updates are
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2709981 (Something to do with WMP 12 and DVD)
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2592687 (Something to do with RDP 8.0)
and silverlight and language packs
I will keep you informed if the US of A Time change solved my Promprem
Edit: // Maybe iTunes 11 solves everything

3G: play count updated, but not last played

I have a 3G 10GB iPod, and since updating to iTunes 7, my stats are not syncing correctly. When I play something on my iPod and then sync the stats back to iTunes, the play count field is properly adjusted, but the last played count does not. I understand why this does not occur in the Shuffle, which lacks an internal clock, but the iPod does.
Does anyone know how to correct this problem? Everything I do is based on smart playlists, so the stats need to be correct.

Found the problem. After my iPod didn't update after purchasing new songs, I checked my iPod options. For some reason my iTunes iPod Options changed from "Automaticaly update ..." to "Manually manage ...". Once I set this back to automatic everything updated fine.
It is interesting that even when "Manually manage" was selected, a new Podcast trak was downloaded to the iPod and, after listening to it, the Last Played and Play Count fields were updated.
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Last Played Data with Multiple devices

All:
My household has 2 iPod Classics used for playing music and they're both synced to the same iTunes library. I've got a ton of smart playlists that are dependant on the "last played" and "last skipped" fields to keep fresh stuff in them. Most are set to include ratings greater than 3 stars and exclude songs played or skipped in the last 3 weeks. If I listen to a track on Monday at work and sync iPod #1 that night, it'll seem to update fine with what was played that day. Then at some period later (say Wednesday) I'll sync my wife's iPod (#2). The next day at work, I'll hear the songs I heard on Monday back in my playlists.
So does the sync from iPod # 2 just flat out overwrite the existing play data from iPod #1 in iTunes even if the dates in iTunes are more recent?
Thanks!

Well I've found a workaround on some guy's blog page. It's here:
http://jimcofer.com/personal/?p=8775
I tried this and it works for the problem I was describing above. What I did isn't exactly what he was shooting for, but it works nonetheless. Here's what I did:
1. Played a few tracks on iPod #1 to create some data.
2. Played about 30 seconds of a Podcast on iPod #1.
3. Plug in iPod #1 and sync. Verify that play data is there by viewing all music sorted by Last Played field.
4. Play a few different songs on iPod #2.
5. Play about 30 seconds of a Podcast on iPod #2.
6. Plug in iPod #2 and sync.
7. Look at all music sorted by Last Played and note that tracks played by iPod #1 before the sync of iPod #2 are still showning the play data from a few minutes ago.
So apparently, you have to play a non-song item for it to "close" the database or something along those lines. Whatever. Seems hoaky, but if that's what it takes to get my smart playlists to keep ticking, I guess I do it.

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I have been transferring my music digitally since 5 years before iTunes ever existed. I have just finally developed a rating system that I will be able to benefit from. So, I want go though almost two decades worth of my music, and rate all these songs.
I'd like to rate my songs which I've never listened to, while listening to them. Once rated, I don't want to hear the song again until I've rated all songs.
The problem arises because I can't efficiently just shuffle my music and rate, because iTunes will more commonly play my already-rated songs. Even if shuffle was actually random (like it used to be) I'd still have music that would remain unrated before I started getting repeats of the rated ones.
This can not be accomplished with a smart playlist either, because finding only 'unrated' and 'never played' songs will remove the song as soon as I rate it, and stop playing all music in my library. I considered [unshuffled] column-sorting by rating in a smart playlist that only finds songs with a play count of 0; this allows me to start playing the first 0 song in the full list of 0's, but the moment I rate it, it jumps up with the rated songs I've already rated, and continues to play the next track from it's new position.
Ideally, I'd like to [column] sort by Last Played FIRST, and see all the unplayed ones at the top of the list, THEN sort by rating, and view unrated ones reshuffled to the top of that list. But iTunes won't seem to sort in this manner. In other words, It won't re-sort an already-sorted column.
If the rules of my sorting system would help you understand what I'm trying to do, they are included below.
STAGE ONE (what I'm trying to find an efficient process for)
★ - DELETE
★★ - SONG NOT PREFERABLE
★★★ - LISTENED/KEEPING
★★★★ - KNOWN, LIKED SONG
★★★★★ - NEW, LIKED SONG
STAGE TWO
Delete all ★ songs.
Decrease rating of all ★★★★, ★★★ and ★★ remaining songs by ★
[example: select all ★★★ star songs and mass-edit track info and change to ★★ star songs]
New Status:
★ - SONG NOT PREFERABLE
★★ - LISTENED/KEEPING
★★★ - KNOWN, LIKED SONG
★★★★★ - [ BECOMES: ] RE-EVALUTE SONG (since I've only heard it once, after all)
Once I've reevaluated all the songs that are new to me, the ★★★★ category will be reserved for my most favorite songs at the moment.
And all ★★★★★ star ratings will continue to be songs I still need to give some time to before I decide whether I like hearing them or not.
Any ideas would be greatly appreciated!
I know this may seem like overkill, but if I could implement this rating system, I could listen to my music with way less skipping. I'm not going to start deleting songs from complete albums, but I don't need to listen to it if I am not into it. Sometimes a song will be perfect as part of an album, but it's not a jam you're interested in hearing anymore otherwise. Doug's Rate Me! Script doesn't work under my listening habits.

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Why can't I get a straight answer re: Multi Room DVR and HD Boxes

A rep that I spoke w/ on the phone and the website tells me that the HD set top boxes are not compatiable w/ the Multi Room DVR. But they are working on it. A rep I chatted w/ today told me they definitely WILL work together. Why can't I get a straight answer?? And what IS the correct answer? I want to switch to FIOS and I really like the Multi Room DVR option, but I don't want my 1 of my 2 main TVs to be w/o HD. And since the Multi Room Box is HD why wouldn't it be compatiable w/ the HD boxes??
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Joe01880,
And that info is out of date, whether it is on Verizon's website or not. If you have the latest level of the IMG (1.6), then, as confirmed one post above yours, that the HD STB is now supported, and works. This has been posted in multiple posts on multiple forums, so I believe that it is accurate. But I do not have the 1.6 level so I cannot confirm that personally, I can only repeat what other posters in this and other forums have said. For example:
http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r21081661-Multiroom-DVR
http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r21059693-With-16-update-HD-Shareing
http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r21052654-MultiRoom-DVR-Question
http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r20906318-Some-new-features-coming-w-IMG-16
http://www.highdefforum.com/showthread.php?t=78850
http://www36.verizon.com/fiostv/MyAccount/Members/Newfeatures.aspx
Note that the last one is a Verizon site.
Justin
Verizon FiOS TV, Internet, and phone
Keller, TX
Message Edited by Justin on 09-09-2008 04:20 PM

First Generation Ipod Shuffle: Play count and Last Played date

I have a 1st Gen Ipod shuffle that works great in all other respects but it doesn't track the number of "plays" or the "last play" dates. Which means I can't use the "Smart Playlists" Itunes feature to be sure that the music on it stay fresh, non-repetitive. Another problem is if I listen to a podcast on the Ipod Shuffle then in Itunes the podcast appears as though it has never played before. This gets confusing as I listen to a number of podcasts.
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All my tracks should be MP3s or AAC. I ripped them myselfs with iTunes. I may have bought some songs directly off of record labels or some other online music store, but I own my music legally whether I bought it on CD or got given it by magazines or record labels.
I went to the gym today. I set the shuffle to random. Some songs were synched back to iTunes but they weren't the songs I listened to, at least not all of them. Some of them may have been the songs I listened to last workout, at least one or two of the songs updated I did listen to today.
I listened to some other songs last night on my main Mac so it is easy to determine which songs iTunes updated this morning.
I haven't had much time to play with Match. It is still updating and uploading, it has 6000 songs to go. That means in a half month of trying it has managed to find and/or upload a little over 1000 songs actually close to 2000 now. It is something, but it isn't the service I was sold. All my songs and playlists were supposed to be available in the cloud. That hasn't happened and in the case of my smart playlists will never happen.
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I use my shuffle 2 in the gym. When I'm done working out I sync and the most recently played songs are rotated off using a smart play list. This is no longer working. I reset the shuffle 2, I've forced sync and auto filled many times. My latest workout it still lists all the songs I just listened to in the order I listened to them and has their last played date as many months ago.
This seems to be affecting my other iPod too, but it is tougher to diagnose. I signed up to iTunes Match and after several days that is still running but I noticed this problem long before iTunes Match became available in Canada. Both my iPod Shuffle and iTunes are up to date but my music is on an older but upgraded Mac. It has a G4 so no Lion upgrade, I just checked it is 10.5.8

All my tracks should be MP3s or AAC. I ripped them myselfs with iTunes. I may have bought some songs directly off of record labels or some other online music store, but I own my music legally whether I bought it on CD or got given it by magazines or record labels.
I went to the gym today. I set the shuffle to random. Some songs were synched back to iTunes but they weren't the songs I listened to, at least not all of them. Some of them may have been the songs I listened to last workout, at least one or two of the songs updated I did listen to today.
I listened to some other songs last night on my main Mac so it is easy to determine which songs iTunes updated this morning.
I haven't had much time to play with Match. It is still updating and uploading, it has 6000 songs to go. That means in a half month of trying it has managed to find and/or upload a little over 1000 songs actually close to 2000 now. It is something, but it isn't the service I was sold. All my songs and playlists were supposed to be available in the cloud. That hasn't happened and in the case of my smart playlists will never happen.
I'll read you link, but I wrote a blog posting how I was disappointed with the service so far.
Thanks!

Sync play count, last played, and rating with iOS 5

From other threads (https://discussions.apple.com/message/16563011#16563011 and https://discussions.apple.com/message/16505730#16505730 for example) it is clear that there are some problems with play count, last played, and rating information updating and syncing under iOS 5. I have at least a partial solution. I am posting it here instead of under one of the existing threads because 1) some discussions seem to be confusing the difference between updating the iOS 5 device data and syncing the updated data to the computer, and 2) some of the discussions are focused iPhone, and though the problem appears similar I only have an iPod touch to test the solution on.
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Just for posterity in case anyone else ever has a similar problem.
I found out I can work around my problem, but I have limitations. The only time it'll update the correct songs is after I restore it and then add the initial songs on to the Shuffle. The key is to not ever have a situation where I reshuffle the order of those songs. If I ever shuffle to better alphebatize or categorize things, the sync updating screws everything up. If say Song #3 on my Shuffle's playlist after the intitial transfer gets moved around to being anything other than the third song played, my Shuffle/iTunes will still think that song has been played although the Song #3 I actually listened to after the sync update will be different. Now I have to carefully compose and place what songs I want loaded on since I can't mess around with the playlist setup at all.
I know Apple support would likely blame my Shuffle for the problem (it's over 6 years old now). But it's funny how this only happened right after I installed 11.0. The update to 11.0.2 did nothing.

Last Played, Play Count, Ratings fields not updating

iTunes 6.0.1.3, 3rd Gen iPod, iPod Shuffle 2005-09-23 firmware
After updating to iTunes 6.0.1.3 I was forced to also update my iPod firmware to 2005-09-23. Since then, the last played, play count and ratings fields associated with music tracks no longer updates when I re-synch my 3G iPod. Ive tested with ripped AAC, ripped MP3, older (FairPlay 1) purchased music as well as new (FairPlay 2) tracks. No matter what Ive tried, the dates, counts and raings remain frozen in their pre-update state.
However, these fields are updated for Podcast tracks!
I also ran a test with my Shuffle. Music file play counts are updated as usual. I do notice that the Last Played field within iTunes is updated with the date and time of re-sync. Has it always been this way? I havent paid attention to this since I first purchased my Shuffle but I thought it only updated play count, not Last Played.
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Found the problem. After my iPod didn't update after purchasing new songs, I checked my iPod options. For some reason my iTunes iPod Options changed from "Automaticaly update ..." to "Manually manage ...". Once I set this back to automatic everything updated fine.
It is interesting that even when "Manually manage" was selected, a new Podcast trak was downloaded to the iPod and, after listening to it, the Last Played and Play Count fields were updated.
Also, regarding my question about the Last Played update with my Shuffle, I learned that iTunes 5 implemented a change to update this field with the current date and time once the Shuffle is re-synch'd.

My iPod no longer updates the "last played" on iTunes

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A couple of days ago I started up iTunes and it asked to accept the license agreement. When I clicked agree my library came up but all my Last Played and play counts had been erased. I reloaded an old library from six months ago and then tried to sync my iPods to update my last played counts but it only worked for about 300 files. I have over 40000 mp3s in my library. I know if you change the file in iTunes it won't sync but there's no way that many files have been changed in six months. Can someone tell me what I'm doing wrong?

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I can live with the podcasts being borked, it's prompted me to use an app (hello iCatcher!) which I had been planning to do for a while. I'm still learning its ways, but it feels a lot more comfortable already.
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So I've got an iPhone which I sync with iTunes on a Mac. Everything's patched up to the latest version.
Has anyone successfully had any successful syncs? The smart playlists are just a joke - I'd expect the track listings to be comparable between devices, but they just aren't.
This is a beta product which some glaring functionality holes. How Apple can think it's worth paying for is beyond me. The smart playlist functionality has been working seamlessly for years on iTunes ... but it's broken. And I paid for the product that broke it. I'm feeling very let down.

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I've got a smart playlist that takes X GB worth of music based upon rating and then sorts it by date last played. The problem is that listening to a song on the iPod does not seem to reset the last played information. It does update the play count information. I've just kinda dealt with it for a while but it has started to bug me. Any suggestions?
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This is not an iPod shuffle, right?
Correct.
Also, you are automatically update all songs and
playlists (or selected playlists), right?
Yup.
Finally, make sure that the date is set on the iPod.
(Settings-->date and time)
Bingo! Thanks. I could have sworn I had set the date/time when I got it. It must have been reset when I updated the software on it.
Thanks for the big help!
Lon
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Problem when syncing: won't update itunes play count/last played etc

My old 2g shuffle was capable of updating play count/last played and adding songs to the recently played playlist when synced to my itunes.
Seems my new 3g shuffle can't do this.
I remember the trick with the 2g was to make sure it was switched off first before connecting/syncing, but I've tried all sorts of different combo's with the 3g and nothing will make it update song stats in itunes.
How can I make it update my itunes?

Ok, cool, I figured it out:-) Just in case anyone ever has the same problem, here's a quick rundown:
Basically it's the same problem you can get with 2nd gen shuffles if you're manually managing songs. So I just unticked manually manage music in the device summary and got the shuffle to sync music from a playlist I created/dumped all the songs I wanted into.

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