Strange behavior of merged clips on import

After much troubleshooting I've noticed more strange behavior in the reimport of merged clips from XML...
I have merged clips made out of film transfer and the audio from an aiff file. I can export and xml of a merged clip... all of about 30 seconds and when I reimport the clip from xml it is like 47 minutes long and will not reconnect the audio part of the merged clip. That is actually happening to ALL of my merged clips in a current film project.

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