Strange Behaviour P35 NEO2 Memory Throughput

Just Found something really odd. I have my MSI NEO2 FR jumpered to the 333 strap rather than the 266 it comes out of the box. There is no setting in the Bios to choose this so you have to change the jumpers. This gave me a big boost in memory performance (from 6500MB/s range to 8600MB/s range)so if you have one of these boards I suggest you do this!
The strange behaviour is that if I boot with FSB of 480 FSB pushing my memory at 1200Mhz and then down clock to 470 FSB using MSI's Dual Core Center with mem at 1175Mhz, I get Sandra XII SP1 memory throughput at 8735. If I boot with FSB of 470 I get Sandra XII SP1 memory throughput at 8550. This is using Memset with the same settings in both modes. This doesn't make any sense to me. I know it is only a 2% difference but a performance gain with the same settings and just a different way of getting there seems quite strange!
Anybody got any ideas why this would be?
Daz

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I will test my system again with the 333Mhz strap and come back with my new results.

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MSI P35 Neo2 Fir Patriot Memory Problems.

Hi,
Having problems with my Patriot Performance PC2-6400 Low Latency Memory DDR2 (800mhz) 4-4-4-12, 2,2v, 2 * (2gb(2*1GB)kit) =4gb total
on a MSI P35 Neo2 Fir moderboard with Intel Q6600 cpu)
When i check the memory with CPU-Zv1.44 the memory only goes with the frequencys of
DRAM Frequenzy 399.5mhz
FSb : Dram 2:3
Cas# latency 5.0 clocks
Ras# to Cas# delay 5 clocks
Ras# Precharge 5 clocks
Cycle Time 16 clocks
Why doesn't they go in 4-4-4-12 frequencys ???
Have tried to manually change dram timing in bios but no success
so i went back to auto dram timing.
What can i do to get the 4-4-4-12 timings.
Please help.
thanks in advance swefin

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When i check the memory with CPU-Zv1.44 the memory only goes with the frequencys of
DRAM Frequenzy 399.5mhz
~400 MHz is the correct frequency for your modules. CPU-Z shows real clock speed. DDR means Double Data Rate (two transactions per clock cycle). Multiply 399.5 MHz by two in your head and you have your effective DDR(2) rating of 800 MHz. There is no problem here.
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Why doesn't they go in 4-4-4-12 frequencys Huh
Have tried to manually change dram timing in bios but no success
so i went back to auto dram timing.
What can i do to get the 4-4-4-12 timings.
CL5 is the standard latency for DDR2-800 modules. It ensures that they are able to operate @JEDEC standard voltage settings @1.8V (+/-0.1V). The board is supposed to set memory timings to CL5, otherwise your system would not be able to boot at standard voltage. Check the "SPD" tab in CPU-Z and look for the standard timings that were programmed into the SPD chips of your modules (400 MHz), I am absolutely sure that you won't see 4-4-4-12 @400 MHz @1.8V being part of the SPD tables.
You have to manually adjust memory timings in BIOS to 4-4-4-12 AND also increase memory voltage to the value the manufacturer recommends for CL4/DDR2-800 MHz. The voltage is usually 2.0-2.2V depending on the brand and type of RAM in use.

Msi p35 neo2 fr memory

I want to buy a msi p35 neo2 fr and a e2180 processors and i saw that on msi's memory list for this mobo there isn't any DDR II 800 mentioned for processors with 800 Mhz FSB .This means that the mobo doesn't work with DDR II 800 and a processor with 800 MHz FSB ?

it does work with DDR2 800 and 800mhz fsb.

MSI P35 Neo2 (MS-7345) strange BIOS problem

Hi all,
My first post here - just wondering if someone could help me.
I recently 'accidentally' flashing my bios version from 1.8 to 1.C on my MS-7345 (P35 Neo 2) board, after deciding to install live update. While I know it's often considered a bad idea to flash the bios when everything's working, but I did it anyway. Since doing it I got many many BSODs. I'm running XP Pro 32 bit btw. I got these BSODs mostly when the computer was working hard, but not always. I'd barely be able to do anything sometimes. Occasionally Windows would even crash on start-up.
I made sure that i was running the latest drivers for all my components, peripherals, etc, including motherboard and graphics card. I even reformatted my HDD and reinstalled Windows from scratch just in case it was a virus. However, the problem has continued, and I even got a few BSODs during my reinstallation of Windows XP Pro.
Another thing I tried was reverting back to the old bios version (1.8), but this made no difference, so I eventually returned to the latest 1.C.
I've written down all the error message codes somewhere, though I've currently misplaced the sheet I wrote them on. If you need to know the exact codes I can locate it and add it to this thread. I probably got about 30 BSODs per day. Often they were IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL type ones, but definitely not just that. Each code I got I researched thoroughly to see if I could work out the problem. Some pointed to RAM Failure, some to HDD problems, some to bad Graphics card, some to corrupt drivers. Pretty much anything you can think of, the errors 'blamed'. However, I had a hunch regarding the bios / motherboard.
I eventually discovered (by chance) after re-flashing the bios (which I'm doing in DOS using the suggested AFUD after a reboot) that if I...
1. Switch on the computer
2. Enter BIOS Setup by pressing Del
3. Turn of the boot sector protection (in order to flash bios) and set USB stick to be the first boot device
4. Boot to DOS from my USB stick and flash the bios in DOS
5. Reboot
This is the critical bit...
6. When when I get the 'Bad checksum, Press F1 to enter BIOS setup or F2 to use default values' PRESS F2 (it won't work if you go into bios setup as this will then require another reboot before loading windows).
7. Let Windows XP load as normal.
If I follow all the above steps (I discovered this by mistake), the computer is 100% stable. I even tried some burnout tests and played some cpu & gpu intensive games with settings on full to give it a real workout, which previously would have ended up in a BSOD within seconds.
However....
If I then reboot the computer (or shut down and switch it back on the next day) and let windows load, it will be unstable again, just as before!
In other words, I'm currently having to flash the bios every time I switch on my PC or reboot it in order to get a stable system.
So this problem isn't fixed - but I've found a workaround at least for now.
Incidentally I've tried installing a new CR2032 bios battery, since I thought it might be losing settings on reboot, but this didn't make any difference.
I personally don't think it's actually the BIOS Reflashing that's making it work - just something weird in the bios settings. It's as if 'erasing the checksum' (cleaning out these dodgy bios settings), which forces the PC to load the defaults the next time it boots, is helping. I have to just mention that going into bios set-up and choosing 'Load Fail-Safe Defaults' does NOT help, since the computer reboots when you 'Save Settings and Exit'. It's as if the bios settings corrupt every time on boot, which causes the crashes.
Does anyone have any suggestions?

To return to the previous bios, just download the one you want and use the forums tool.
http://www.msi.com/product/mb/P35-Neo2-FR---FIR.html#/?div=BIOS
>>Use the MSI HQ Forum USB flasher<<
Before you do that, try to boot and enter bios. Hit f6 for optimized defaults save and exit see if the problem persists.

P35 NEO2 FIR boot problems

Hi,
I'm another unlucky MSI P35 NEO2 FIR user whose mainboard does not boot. My config is as follows -
mainboard: MSI P35 NEO2 FIR
cpu: E6750
ram: OCZ Platinum Rev.2 800 2x1G
gfx card: MSI 8600GT
psu: Corsair VXEU450W
In the beginning it worked flawlessly for about 4 months. Then the boot problems started to appear. After turning on, the mainboard status leds configuration was red-red-green-red, the system kept rebooting and I had to wait several minutes before successful boot occured. (The whole procedure involved additional amount of hassle for me because I had to open the case and disconnect the harddisk during the "warm-up" time.) Gradually the time before successful boot increased. At one time I was not able to boot for several hours. Then I changed FSB jumpers configuration, moved memory to different slots, reseted BIOS and I don't even remember what I tried before eventually miraculously booting the system. After this accident I had to wait 0.5-1.5h for successful boot. In the meantime I upgraded BIOS to v1.8. Nothing changed. This lasted few weeks, and now the big problem reoccured. Initially, the behaviour after turning on slightly changed. Instead of red-red-green-red leds, I got 4 reds. The big additional disadvantage of this was that the system was not rebooting automatically after a few seconds. I had to manually turn it off then turn on again and repeat it until I got red-red-green-red leds, after which automatic reboots started. It's been getting worse and worse since then and now the situation is that I haven't been able to boot the system for a few days. Each of those days I tried for several hours without success (still trying while writing this post).
The one thing I haven't tried is using the 667 memory, I read that it might help. But even if 667 memory will help, does it solve the problem once and for all, or it's possible that the problem will reoccur later (note that my mainboard worked fine for 4 months)?
Also, do you have any other suggestions?
Thanks for help.

Quote from: Jack the Newbie on 14-March-08, 04:44:40
Try to boot your system with only one stick of RAM installed in Slot 1 (test both stick seperately).
Tried this today, though not too long (<20 manual reboots).
Quote from: Jack the Newbie on 14-March-08, 04:44:40
Also, clear CMOS with main A/C power cable removed from PSU before next start-up attempt.
I did something similar today - I removed the battery completely (and rebooted without a battery since then).
Quote from: Jack the Newbie on 14-March-08, 04:44:40
Your current RAM modules could be faulty. Do you have different modules to try (different brand/model, if possible)?
I believe RAM is ok, because when my system worked I ran Orthos a few times for several hours in "blend" mode and no errors occured. Unfortunately I can't easily get 800 or 667 modules.
I'll try again tomorrow, enough for today.

P35 Neo2 - OS died, need help restoring RAID after re-install of XP

I have a P35 Neo2 with on-board Intel RAID. I need a bit of help getting a two drive RAID going again after reinstalling XP.
Here's my situation:
Same hardware, MB, etc. I originally set up the system with a 20gb IDE and two 320gb SATA drives. I put the OS on the 20gb, and set the two 320's up as a RAID. I partitioned the 320's into 200gb + 120gb sections on each drive. The 200gb partitions were mirrored between the two drives, and the remaining 120gb on each drive was used as non-RAID storage space.
I picked up a nasty virus-spyware a month or two ago that I was struggling to find a fix for when the OS began to BSOD. I put the 20gb IDE to the side, and put a 40gb IDE in it's place. I re-installed XP on it last night, and now need to get the RAID up and running again.
I went into Disk Management and it showed three dynamic drives with a yellow triangle icon and labeled 'foreign'. I right clicked and found an option to 'import'. I clicked on import and a window popped up showing all of the partitions and logical drives I had previously created on the two drive RAID. I figured I was in business, so I clicked OK.
Disk Management now shows one dynamic disk as 'Online', but still shows two as 'Foreign'. If I right click on them, and chose import, I get the same window showing my partitions and logical drives, but if I click OK, I get a warning message that: "Some of the volumes you are importing will lose data because you have not moved all of your disks to the system."
I'm in over my head at this point, so any help would be appreciated.
Thanks,
GeoD

A 200gb partition is restored, but the 120gb is not, which is confusing. ALso, when I look at the logical drives in the partition, I'm beginning to think I had the 200gb mirror /120 gb storage backwards. The data restored is not something I would be concerned with losing. It's installed applications, and multimedia files that I could lose without worry.
There is also 70gb dynamic drive labeled Missing. I know I left a small portion of all three of the drives unallocated as a reserve, so that must be what this is. It's like the RAID info is incomplete which leads me to the next piece of info.
Something I didn't initially mention for the sake of brevity, was when I right-clicked on 'Import Disk' the applet noted the disk was 3/3. I assumed that meant disk 3 of 3 disks. I've since begun to wonder if I imported the disks in the wrong order. ie) I should have imported disk 1/3 first.
Do you know how to clear out Disk Mgt's info, so I can start over?
I also noticed only one of the 320 SATA's shows up in Device Mgr, (DM). What I found both confused me and encouraged me.
When I created the array, I named the the drives RAID0 and RAID1. They both show up in DM. But only one of them shows up as the drive model: WDC WD3201ABYS-01B9A0. There should be two of them.
The OS knows there should be a RAID, but for some reason only one of the drives show up as hardware. I rebooted and checked the data and power supply cables, (connected), the BIOS, (both drives show up) and both drives show up in Disk Mgt. Just not in DM.
Does that mean the HD has died?
Part of my difficulty is I had a brain injury in 2001, followed by another in 2003. The 2nd injury caused 6 months of what the docs call it a walking coma - I walked and talked, but have no memory of the time.
When I 'woke up' in the Fall of 2003, I found I had lost considerable cognitive function and other problems. These problem have ended up disabling me, (I'm now on SS Disability).
Until then I had been a 'System Admin' for micro-businesses, (max - 15 computers). I built systems and servers, installed networks, maintained them and did all the support. Basically I was these company's Sys Admin on an as-needed basis.
One thing I lost was the ability to troubleshoot and repair hardware. Combined with other cognitive problems, I was forced into closing my business. At the time, I was maintaining close to fifty offices; ~20 had Peer-to-Peer networks & ~20 had servers I had built.
What's doubly frustrating is I was just getting ready to sign up with an online backup service when I got hit with a nasty malware/virus that's so new there's no info on the 'net about it. I got entangled in trying to fix it and spaced out the online back up. Now I find myself in a situation where I desperately need to restore the data on these RAID drives. Because of the memory problems I now have, I completely depend on my computer as an auxiliary 'brain' - I have stuff on these drives that I have to have.
I didn't do much with RAID when I was still in the biz, and this is the first time I've had problems with a RAID of my own, so I'm struggling to figure this stuff out.
Should I be able to install one of these drives by itself so I can get the data from it? The way I understand the theory of RAID is that if one drive dies, you can put another in and the mirrored portion will re-create itself on the new drive. Couldn't that be a way to get the important data off the drive or drives if they don't want to go back together as a RAID?
I could back each up to the online service and then just rebuild them. Not my first choice, but it would reduce my stress level if I thought I could do it.
Sorry to go on, but now you can see why I'm both struggling & worried.
Thanks for any info or help.
Later,
GeoD

Bios Update Problem P35 Neo2 - MS 7345 V 1.1

Hello
I've update my board bios because a "hard disk not present" problem and since it I was having several problems:
I'm running Windows XP SP2 and it takes a very long time to start (in bar and loading windows screen).
The major problem I have is when power on the computer it is alwayls showing the red font message that says it was a problem overclocking, so everytime I need to go into setup and to save changes whitout changing anything.
I suspect the bios I've installed is not the right one since the start screen says "MSI Neo Patinum" instead Neo2, but I've used Live Update ... so it should be the rigth one.
Can anybody help me please with this?

Quote from: Jack t.N. on 30-April-09, 06:32:24
Hi,
first of all, can you please provide full system specs for comparison? Read the >>Posting Guide<< to get an idea of what we need to know.
Hello Again, first of all I want to thank you for answering so fast. Also I have to apologize for my "not so good" english.
# CPU brand, model and speed (eg AMD Athlon64 X2 5600+ 'Brisbane' core)
DualCore Intel Pentium E2160, 1800 MHz (9 x 200)
# Motherboard model (eg K9A2 Platinum, NOT just MS-7376!!)
P35 Neo2 - MS 7345 V 1.1
http://www.msi.com/index.php?func=proddesc&maincat_no=1&cat2_no=&cat3_no=&prod_no=1261
# Memory brand, type/speed, size, number of sticks (eg 2x1GB Crucial DDR2-800)
2x1GB Supertalent DDR2-800 DDR2 SDRAM (5-5-5-15 @ 400 MHz) (4-4-4-10 @ 266 MHz) (3-3-3-8 @ 200 MHz)
# Video card brand, chipset type, memory size (eg Gainward Geforce 8800GT 512MB PCI-E)
XFX NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GT (256 MB)
# Hard drive(s) brand, size, type, speed (eg 2x Seagate 200gb SATA150)
WDC WD3200AAKS-00VYA0 (298 GB, SATAII)
# Any other peripheral cards and devices (eg MSI TV@nywhere Plus TV card, MSI PC54G2 Wireless LAN PCI card)
Multi Flash Reader USB Device
Realtek RTL8185 802.11a/b/g Wireless LAN Network Adapter   PCI
# Operating system and version (eg Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 32bit)
MICROSOFT Windows XP Pro SP2 32bit
# Power Supply Unit brand and output in watts and DC output (amps)
Vistuba 550W Power Supply
+3.3 V   35A
+5 V     30A
+12 V   20A
Quote from: Jack t.N. on 30-April-09, 06:32:24
Three important questions:
1. Which BIOS Version were you using before the update.
2. Which Version did you update to?
3. Did you clear CMOS with main A/C power cable removed from PSU after the Update?
1. I'm not sure what bios version come with the board (my misstake) but it was older than I've now.
2. I'm actually using AMI 1.10 Build Date: 11/10/2008
3. Yes I did
Quote from: Jack t.N. on 30-April-09, 06:32:24
Did that problem disappear after the update?
The hard disk problem didn't show any more
Quote from: Jack t.N. on 30-April-09, 06:32:24
What kind of hard drive are you using and what port is it connected to?
WDC WD3200AAKS-00VYA0 (298 GB, SATAII)
it is connected to SATA 5 port acording to Board manual diagram
I've checked hard disk SMART and health and it is ok
Quote from: Jack t.N. on 30-April-09, 06:32:24
- If you have an IDE/PATA Hard Drive:
.....What kind of cable are you using? (40 or 80 wire)
.....Is there any other drive connected to the IDE cable (how are the jumper settings for each drive (MASTER/SLAVE/CABLE Select)?
I Haven't IDE/PATA Hard Drive
I will tell you the story:
I bought the computer and I was using the Blue (Marvel) sata port for the hard disk.
Then a normal day I began to have a very low Windows start so I changed the sata plug to a purple one and the problem disappeared.
Then I began to have the same problem again so I changed the plug again but problem was there anyway so decide to update bios to 1.8 version.
The problem come back randomly and sometimes it disappeared just changing the sata port to wich the plug is connected to.
After that I began to have the "No hard disk present" error and I cleared the CMOS and tried several things until it come to work again.
Few time ago I noticed that was a newer bios version, so then I used Live Update to update bios and drivers again.
Now I'm having the "slow" problem again. I'have been trying several configurations and testing programs but I just didn't find anything wrong.
Edit:
I'm having the first post problem (overcloking message after power on)
I also had a very rare issue few time ago when shutdown the pc: few minutes later it power on by It self !! until I have disabled every wake up event from setup.
I hope you can understand, and thanks again for your help.
Gabriel.

P35 Neo2-F Sata2 Raid1 problems

hello
i have some problems with MSI P35 Neo2-F mb...
I can't make it work with 2 sata2 Hard Drives in RAID1 mode
Last BIOS update done,
The install of the OS (win xp prof sp2/sp3) is ok, but if you want to format last partition of RAID drive it cames with blue screen and restart - after restart it said that the Raid Matrix is demaged - and won't boot... "please select PROPER BOOT DEVICE"
VOLUMES
ID NAME LEVEL STRIP SIZE STATUS BOOTABLE
0 VOLUME0 RAID1 (MIRROR) N/A 149GB FAILED NO
PHYSICAL DISKS:
PORT DRIVE MODEL SERIAL # SIZE TYPE/STATUS (VOL ID)
2 ST3160813AS 149.1GB ERROR OCCURED(0)
3 ST3160813AS 149.1GB ERROR OCCURED(0)
Raid Volume = 160x2 = RAID1 MODE 149GB - split in 3 parts (50Gb each)
Any suggestion is welcome...
Proc Intel Dual Core E5200 (2,5Ghz/800fsb/2mb)
Memories: Desktop Memory KVR800D2N5/2G KINGSTON (DDR2,2GB,800MHz,Non-ECC CL5) or
KVR800D2N5K2/4G KINGSTON (DDR2,4GB 2x2gb DC,800MHz,Non-ECC CL5)
VGA: WinFast PX8400 GS Silent
HDD: 2 x SEAGATE Barracuda 7200.10 (3.5",160GB,8MB,SATA II-300) ST3160813AS
RAID 1
POWER COOLER MASTER Extreme Power Plus 460W
fdd DRIVE - for instaling with F6 - raid drivers
Optical LG DVDRW DL ata/ide

Hello,
How old are the drives?
Try a full write 0 on both drives and see what happens after.
http://hddguru.com/content/en/software/2006.04.12-HDD-Low-Level-Format-Tool/
You will need a working pc to do this.
Take both drives out and run HDDGURU LLF tool on them, this will do the write 0.

Nokia C3-01 -strange behaviour/ problems with Noki...

When I was choosing my new mobile, I had two options : Samsung Wave 533 and Nokia C3-01. After a lot of hesitance I decided to pick up Nokia, believing to its high quality despite its poor media potential. However, now I think that it was a bad idea.
      Firstly, I have never thought that Touch and Type won't have ability to adjust brightness of the screen (AWFUL IN THE NIGHT), set up more then one alarm and use many of JAVA applications. When I tried to install some applications, it said- out of memory. Out of memory?! My old SE K770i could much more! What annoys me the most is that I can't use my e-mail account via Nokia Mail. When I press the icon of it , there is an error Null pointer exception and applications shuts. Other strange behaviour- while I was typing sms , suddenly there was hard, long vibration, screen went white and mobile restarted. Other users of C3-01, check this: go to messages, then other messages , then direct , start typing and try to go back to menu- screen turns white, mobile restarts (I'm polish , so names may be a little bit different) . How on earth, can mobile restart so often?.
    , Secondly,the funniest one- Ovi shop. Important thing in every Nokia. Guess what- I can't use it! When I to launch the apllication and try to go to the shop, there is information that it's not avaible for my phone. I used it a week ago and worked properly.
      All in all, I hope that Nokia will share an update of software to this model. I am just so disappointed. What I am sure about that next mobile will not be from finnish enterprise.
Solved!
Go to Solution.

Sorry Brother, Your Device is totally misfunctioned and FAULTY, You Need to go back to Nokia Care Centre and GET IT REPLACED.
Your Device is faulty.
Please Dont Blame Nokia Or the C3-01 Device Because both are QUALITY PRODUCTS.
I have C3-01 Since 4 Months Now and I havent Had a Single Complain about my device even though I am a Rough Handler and Using the Mobile Upto its Extend.
You Have 2 options, Try To Fix your Device at Home By :
Soft reset your Nokia C3-01 Touch and Type you need to press *#7780# and then Dial. The security code is 12345. Once you complete this, your phone will come back to factory settings, but you will not loose personal data. Anyway it is recommended to make a backup before performing any of the mentioned procedures.
To hard reset your Nokia C3-01 Touch and Type you just have to press *#7370# and press Dial. The phone will request the security code that is by default 12345. Please be aware that you will loose all the data in your phone, so you should backup all relevant information.
If Problem still persist then Connect to PC Suite/Ovi Suite and Reinstall the Firmware.
BUT U NEED YOUR DEVICE TO BE UPDATED TO ITS LATEST FIRMWARE = v06.05
If still not fixed then, REPLACE YOUR DEVICE ASAP, because as given by Nokia, C3-01 Device Works according to its Specification as Specified.
If I've helped in any way, a click upon the White star to the left would always be appreciated.
If however my answer also solves your problem clicking below " ACCEPT AS SOLUTION " it will benefit other users!

P35 Neo2-FR: Problems with 1066 MHz RAM speeds

I have the following PC components:
Intel Core 2 Duo E6750
MSI P35 Neo2-FR LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard
OCZ Platinum 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500)
In order to get the memory to run at 1066 MHz, I need to set the FSB／Memory Ratio to 1:1.6 correct? When I do that, it shows it running at 1066 MHz but after doing that, I got a BSOD IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL five minutes into a game. I then changed that ratio to 1:1.2 so it runs at 800 MHz and I played for several hours after that without any problems.
That memory should be capable of running at that ratio correct? Possibly defective RAM? OCZ provides a utility to update the SPDs on their chips and when trying to update the one in the first slot, it gives several messages, something like "expected FF got 00," and will not update. The second DIMM updates fine. I am using manual settings for the memory in the BIOS and not the SPD but I'm wondering if the SPD update errors are indicative of a bigger problem.

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Does the memory voltage also need to increase when changing this?
It depends on the modules you are using. In most cases the answer is "YES".
Look for the specific part number of your modules and check on the OCZ Produkt Page to find out what DRAM Voltage is recommended for 1066 MHz.
http://www.ocztechnology.com/
EXAMPLE:
For OCZ DDR2 PC2-8500 SLI-Ready Edition (OCZ2N1066SR1G) OCZ recommends 2.3 Volts. BIOS Standard is usually 1.8-1.9V.
http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/memory/ocz_ddr2_pc2_8500_sli_ready_edition
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n order to run 1066 MHz, I need to set it at 1:1.6
Yes:
333 MHz x 1.6 ~ 533 MHz (~1066 MHz DDR2)

P35-Neo2 posts only after CMOS reset

Hello everyone,
I've searched the forums and found the 'solution' mentioned above in other related threads. However, none of these seem to solve my problem and resetting the CMOS everytime is certainly not nice. I hope you can share your knowledge and give me some hints on what might be wrong.
Like for all the others the board does not post, but hangs in the "CPU damaged or not installed properly" cycle. Powering it off, resetting the CMOS makes it boot and I can access the Bios without hassle. Tried failsafe and optimized settings, but if the system is rebooted it hangs again until I reset the CMOS.
I can use this trick to get into the Windows 7 installer (university MSDN in case you wonder) but it will hang at the blue wallpaper. I will try to get my hands on an XP or Vista medium and see if that one works. The PC is completely new so I cannot tell if it ever worked. The components are as follows:
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Memory: A-DATA, 2x2 GB, DDR2, 800 MHz, PC2-6400, CL6 (AD2U800B2G6-2). According to specs sheet they need 1.8 V
CPU: Intel Pentium Dual Core E5200, 2.5 GHZ (800 MHz), LGA775 Socket, L2: 2MB, OEM (EU80571PG0602M) (BIOS says 6x333 = 2 GHz, but correctly identifies the CPU as "Intel Pentium… @ 2.5 GHz". Might this be the problem?)
PSU: Sharkoon SHA 450-8P, ATX 12V 2.0, 450 watts (4044951005871)
hard disk: Seagate Maxtor DiamondMax 23, SATA 2, 3.5" (STM3250318AS)
graphics card: used Nvidia e-Geforce EVGA 7600 GT PCI-E, (it works fine elsewhere)
board: MSI P35 Neo2 GR, ATX, iP35, LGA775 Socket, UDMA133, eSATA, GBit Ethernet, HD Audio (7345-030R). BIOS is at 1.10 (2008-10-11)
Case: Sharkoon Rebel 9 Economy Edition (with 2x2 front USB plugged into the mainboard's JUSB1 and JUSB2 ports, plus Front Audio plugged into the audio port.). I haven't checked these cables after building the computer, but I verified I plugged in POWER/RESET correctly. For some reason the reset button does not seem to have any function. Might this be related to the "real" problem?
I did not flash the BIOS myself. The board was sold as "opened" from the retailer, but I can still return it. I thought I'd first ask here though, as it seems to work fine except for the mentioned issue.
The board is connected using the 24-pin default ATX power connector (to be specific it's 20+4 because of the PSU) plus the two 12 V connectors plugged into POWER1. I did not plug in the JPOWER1 because the graphics card is the only PCI-E consumer and the manual doesn't state that it requires additional power (it doesn't feature an additional connector either). The mainboard's manual isn't very clear on this, do I need to connect JPOWER1 with an "old peripheral connector" even if only the "usual power" PCI-E offers is required?
The boards FSB jumpers are set to the bottom most position, i.e. 333 MHz.
This is all what I can think of right now. Please tell me if I forgot something or if I should try something. Thanks for you time and help!
Greetings
xonnor

Thank you for your quick reply.
I'm not sure about the jumpers. Unlike printed in the manual, the three pins are not seperated in any way so I'm not sure if they're in the "bottom" or "top" position. Would you kindly have a look at the attached picture and tell me if they're set to 333 MHz or 200 MHz? The jumpers are located just below where the flash is most visible. If the bottom position in the manual is the bottom position like in the photo, then they are indeed set to 333 MHz.
PSU: I'm not sure about what information I need to provide. If I read the sticker correctly, each 12 V rail provides up to 18 A. However, the 2nd connector just "spawns" (wording?) from the 1st one. Please have a look at the photos, these are probably more accurate than me.
Unfortunately I cannot provide CPU-Z screenshots as I haven't yet managed to install or boot Windows.
I hope that provides all information necessary without being too inconvenient for you!

MSI P35 Neo2-Fr -- can't get onboard audio device to appear in XP

I've just installed XP sp3 onto my new mobo (MSI P35 Neo2-Fr).
Attached is Q6600 core2 quad processor, 2GB memory (DDR2), ATI HD4850 gfx card. I haven't changed the bios much at all or overclocked anything yet.
All seems fine *except* that I can't windows XP to see that there's an onboard audio device.
(It is enabled in the bios btw.) I've tried installing the high def audio driver on the CD from mobo box, and also downloaded the latest from the MSI site. I uninstall the driver and reboot before trying to reinstall it again btw.
The audio driver installer used to say there was a problem installing the driver, but it doesn't any more. After installing it and rebooting, XP control panel -> Audio devices says there are no audio devices.
Also, I notice that there should be an extra audio item in the XP control panel (according to mobo manual), but this hasn't appeared.
In XP's system hardware list there are no sound devices under Sound, but there are two unknown PCI devices (with yellow question marks next to them).
Any suggestions?

Quote from: Del UK on 05-September-08, 05:13:05
Had same issue with ATI card installed.
Go to Microsoft update and choose custom
You should see a list with hardware updates..........
After that, all will be fine
Hi there
Thanks for your reply. I went to MS updates, didn't see any in custom about hardware (apart from updated ethernet driver). Installed all updates anyway. And the problem remains...

P35 Neo2/FR and Nostromo n52

I recently built a new system (x-mas present to myself)...
P35 Neo2 / FR
core2 duo E6850
corsair xms2 2gig (twin2x2048-6400c4)
western digital caviar HD 250gig
lite on DVD burner
XFX 8800gt
XP pro with SP2C OEM
and I stuck it all in a coolermaster CM690 with extreme power duo 650W PS. I'm reusing my current input devices and monitor. I am not overclocking.
Everything works fine except for my Nostromo n52. I can install the latest nostromo drivers/software (version 3.2.4) and device manager shows everything installed and working, but as soon as I plug the N52 in any usb port I instantly get a blue screen BUGCODE_USB_DRIVER crash. One time I got DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL. I also tried using the older drivers that origionally came with the install CD with the same BUGCODE result. I tried reinstalling XP and chose the repair option thinking that might help but no luck. I downloaded/installed the latest drivers for the mobo from MSI website. The n52 works fine on the asus A7N8X setup that this computer is replacing so i know its functioning.
I though of trying to flash the BIOS to v1.6 since my mobo has v1.4, but I'm a bit reluctant to risk screwing it up being the bios descriptions of what was changed don't appear as though it would help my problem.
Any one run into a similar problem? I can live without my n52 if I have to, but after several years it feels odd not having it under my left hand. Any help/tips/tricks are welcome.

Here is the new situation which is actually the same old situation. I reformated my hard drive and reinstalled win XP pro (sp2). I then installed motherboard drivers and updated XP from windows update. Then I downloaded and installed the latest audio, ethernet, and INF drivers from the MSI website. I didn't install the raid drivers. I downloaded n52 drivers (3.2.4) from belkin website and installed them. I got the little blue icon installed in my system tray that I can use to open the loadout manager and launch editor for the n52. I then checked device manager for any new entries under HID/keyboard/mouse and there were none. I then plugged my n52 into a USB port and windows started giving me those little popup bubbles near the system tray stating new hardware is found. They pop up and disappear faster then i can write it all down, but the last one to popup was `nostromo n52 HID speed pad 2.0 mouse wheel` and then the system crashed to a blue screen BUGCODE_USB_DRIVER error. I then unplugged the n52 and rebooted. I booted to the desktop with the little blue icon still in the system tray. I plugged the n52 back in and DIDN"T crash. I checked device manager and under mouse I have `HID compliant mouse` listed twice, under keyboard I have `HID keyboard device` listed, and under HID I have `HID compliant game controler`, `nostromo n52 HID speed pad 2.0`, and ` nostromo n52 HID speed pad 2.0 mouse wheel` listed. Nothing was showing as being in conflict. I then loaded the game Lord of the Rings Online and played for 5 minutes with the nostromo seeming to work fine. I then logged out of the game and rebooted the computer. A few seconds after rebooting to the desktop the system crashed to BUGCODE_USB_DRIVER. Now the computer crashes the instant i plug in the n52 or upon reaching the desktop if its already plugged in. At the moment i still have the n52 drivers installed but i have the device unplugged.
Yes Maesus, I have reformated and reinstalled XP twice in the last 2 weeks. The computer is only 2 weeks old
NovJoe, the only other USB devices I have are my mouse and a headset/mic I use for ventrillo. I can plug and unplug either of them into any usb port with no problems.
On a side note I noticed something that seems a bit strange but didn't think much of it. Is it normal for device manager AND My Computer to show floppy disk drive A: even though I have NO FLOPPY INSTALLED? This is the first computer I ever had that didn't have a floppy drive so I never would have noticed this before. Both entries will vanish if I disable floppy in the BIOS.

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Hi guys - help required!
Just completed my first build (second if you include a mobo rebuild);
P35-Neo2 Fr (bios v.1.8)
E8400
Antec EA-500W PSU
Asus EN8600GT
and Corsair XMS2-6400 2 x 2048C4DHX DDr2
initially couldn't get the system through POST - was hanging on the 'Memory Detection Test' - RRGR Led's. Tried all variations of dimm slots including single channel - all to no avail. Resorted to buying a cheap PNY pc6400 single 512 stick and now I can get through POST all ok. I've since tried changing bios timing settings to match the Corsair RAM but still won't boot when I switch the sticks? Are there any known issues with this RAM / mobo combi?
thanks

So, I've upped the memory voltage to 2.1v and managed to get one of the corsair sticks through POST, I can't however add the second. I tried with default bios settings (apart from mem v) and I also tried with manual timing (4.4.4.12) and manual freq (1:1.2 =800).
running out of ideas! (really don't want to flash new bios) - does the mem voltage need to be higher for dual channel working?
thanks

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Ok this is gonna be long so bear with me...
I recently purchased a new board, CPU and RAM for a long overdue upgrade. I installed all the components and the machine booted up fine, other than the dreaded dual boot. The problem I am having is a freeze or reboot during OS install. At first it was freezing during copy of system files, usually at the same spot of around 47%, but I have seen it all over the place. It won't let me do a regular format of disk without freeze or reboot, only a quick. After many tries and 3 different Win Pro disks, the other 2 with SP2 instead of 3, I have gotten as far as the 2nd copy of files in the XP GUI. Now I have tried to install IDE to IDE, SATA to IDE, IDE to SATA and SATA to SATA. One of either sticks of RAM in all slots. Purchased new PSU thinking that my old one wasn't powerful enough. Reseated CPU and cooler, added extra thermal grease. Reset BIOS settings to default. Cleared CMOS. I even tried installing Vista and Ubuntu just for kicks and got notta. The reboot comes out of nowhere and I have even had the thing freeze on me in BIOS once. I figured before I packed up the new items for RMA to Newegg I would ask here, after many searches, to see if anyone had any input.
Rig is as follows-
MSI P35 Neo2-FR LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboardwith 1.8 Bios
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz LGA 775 Quad-Core Processor
G Skill 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory
SAPPHIRE 100162L Radeon X1300XT 256MB 128-bit GDDR2 PCI Express x16
Ultra LSP 650 Pro +12v=38A 650 watts

I am trying with only one HDD and a CD-ROM.
I've been trying with one of each of the two sticks of RAM in ever slot. Just got done trying with different voltage on RAM and also tried different voltage on the CPU, no luck. Either freezes or reboots.

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