Strange Bounding Box Behaviour

Hi
I have been working in Illustrator recently - and a problem has arisen which is making it hard to produce an accurate artwork. When drawing a simple rectangular box around a 500 x 830 px page - the bounding box is misaligned to the content box.
What I mean by that is that there is a gap between the edge of the bounding box - and the actual border of the box. To make matters worse - if I move the node for the bounding box - the line doesn't necessarily maintain the offset which appeared in the first instance. Meaning I literally cannot accurately draw a box to fit the page - as the border is always out of position.
I have attached a couple of pics to probably better illustrate the problem than my explanation is doing. Please note, in the pics - I have literally just moved the btm left node of the bounding box (ignore the diagonal lines as this is a sep element) - not other changes have been made.
Any ideas anyone....please....?
Thanks
Miles

Thanks for the reply. Just tried the prefs deletion option but sadly to no avail. Previously I have also reinstalled the entire CS (for other reasons) and the problem had existed prior to this also.
Interestingly if I switch the settings to "align stroke to center" it renders accurately - but the line jumps (all snapping to options are off) to either inside or outside of the artboard and wont sit nicely on the line. It becomes an issue more when exporting as a jpeg as it either renders with no bottom border atall i.e. off of the artboard, or with a pixels space beneath the bottom of the graphic - which obviously is a little unsightly.
Very odd stuff indeed.
M

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