Strange findings with K8N DIamond/Platinum SLI and BIOS 3.6

Having toiled for weeks trying to get my machine to run at 1T timings fully stable at memory speed 550DDR, I have finally done it.
What you have to do is this...make sure that your NB voltage is the same or greater than your CPU Voltage.
I had my CPU at 1.45+6.6% =1.546v and my NB at 1.5v. This would not work.
I found out by accidentally putting 1.6v through the NB and Voila!
Not only that but the RAM is now doing great at 285MHz (570DDR with 2.5-4-4-8 1T at 2.80v).
All been stable through all benchmarks and SuperPi/Memtest for 2 days in total now.
Updating my profile to match.
My God it feels good.
I hope that this helps some folk who have stability problems in any area.
K6dude

I have not tried the 3.7 BIOS, as it is all working well. I don't want to inherit any new bugs...I'll wait until someone tests it all properly.
I wish that the 183 mem divider would be put back, I'm having to adjust it from 166 to 183 with A64Tweaker on startup.
Anyone know if 3.7/1.7 has the 183 divider?
Yes I was only successful current CPU speed with BIOS 3.2, 3.5 and 3.6, so try 3.6 and maybe 3.7 with my settings...you might be lucky.
After you have flashed your BIOS, reset the CMOS button TWICE...and make sure that the PSU has no power going into it and you have no seperately powered USB devices attached while you reset it (This has found to be the case for me with my USB Keyboard/mouse devices), otherwise it will not reset properly and some of your old bugs could still be there.
What week Venice CPU do you have...0517 is mine and it is so far one of the best batches...this could make a difference in some cases.
K6dude

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K8N Neo4 Platinum SLI and BIOS goofiness

A couple nights ago I figured I'd flash my K8N Neo4 Platinum SLI to the latest BIOS version, since I hadn't touched it in over a year. I was using 3.1, and I decided to use the 3.A. Big mistake. Computer boots fine, but immediately bluescreens as soon as Windows tries to load. After diddling around on my brother's computer trying to make a bootable CD, I manage to get back to a state where I can flash again, and try the 3.7. Same problem...bluescreen on Windows startup. At that point I just gave up and went back to 3.1, ignoring the 3.3 and 3.2 BIOSes.
Is anyone else having issues trying to flash the more recent BIOSes?
(I just recently found out that MSI's US site doesn't have a complete list of available BIOSes, while the Taiwanese site does. I might have to give 3.9 and 3.8 a try.)
EDIT: My system specs are in the link in my sig.

Ok, quick update. I just spent about half an hour with 3.1, 3.2, 3.3, 3.4, 3.7, 3.8, 3.9, and 3.A. None of them work except 3.1...they all bluescreen while starting Windows. I made sure to clear the CMOS completely, yes I left APIC/MPS settings the same (they've always been on default so that hasn't been an issue), and I tried the various safe modes.
Here's the error code given on the BSOD: 0x0000007B (0xF78A6528, 0xC0000034, 0x00000000, 0x00000000)
A quick search on the 0x0000007B error code gives a fairly lengthy MS KB article, but no real solution. I'm at a loss as to why 3.1 works great but nothing else does.

Difference between K8N Neo4 Platinum/SLI and K8N-SLI Platinum

Hey guys.... I have one question and i hope you can help me.
I'm about to get an MSI SLI Platinum motherboard, but it seems that there are two versions, the K8N Neo4 Platinum/SLI and the K8N-SLI Platinum.
What is the real difference between them? As i can see in the manual, the Neo4 version has the additional SATA2 and Gbit LAN controller.
Anyone: Does your K8N-SLI board have 4 or 6 SATA2 ports? and 1 or 2 LANs?
At this picture http://www.midtdata.dk/asp/index.asp?varernr=K8N-SLI-PLAT&goto=productinfo&mainfunc=link I can see that there are 6 blue SATA connectors (lower right corner), and 2 LAN ports left to the LPT port... But the description says 4 SATA and 1 LAN, and so says the manual.
To all owners of this mobo: Does this picture look like your K8N-SLI Platinum or does it look like your K8N Neo4 Platinum/SLI ?

https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?board=36.0
d/l a raid manual and all should be clear

K8N NEO4 PLATINUM SLI BETA BIOS

WHERE CAN I DOWNLOAD IT? DO I HAVE TO INSTALL IT FROM FLOPPY?

which one is the BETA BIOS? none of them seem to be a BETA?
Model Version Size Platform BIOS BIOS Date Counter
K8N Neo4 Platinum SLI (MS-7100) v. 3.6 353 kb AMD Award BIOS 7/22/2005
1. This is Award BIOS release.
2. This BIOS fixes the following problem of the previous version:
- Update CPU ID for E6.
3. 2005/07/22
Model Version Size Platform BIOS BIOS Date Counter
K8N Neo4 Platinum SLI (MS-7100) v. 3.3 358 kb AMD Award BIOS 5/10/2005
1. This is Award BIOS release.
2. This BIOS fixes the following problem of the previous version:
- Update SiI3132 Raid ROM version to 7.2.18.
- Update NVRAID version to 5.27.
- Update NVPXE version to 2.12.
- Update NVMM version to 4.94.
- Update CPU ID for Sempron E3 2000MHz/59W.
- Update CPU ID for Sempron D0 1800Mhz/59W.
- Support K8 Dual Core CPU.
3. 2005/05/10
Model Version Size Platform BIOS BIOS Date Counter
K8N Neo4 Platinum SLI (MS-7100) v. 3.2 358 kb AMD Award BIOS 3/30/2005
1. This is Award BIOS release.
2. This BIOS fixes the following problem of the previous version:
- Update SiI3132 RAID ROM version to 7.1.05.
- Update CPU Microcode for Sempron D0 2000MHz CPU.
3. 2005/03/30
Model Version Size Platform BIOS BIOS Date Counter
K8N Neo4 Platinum SLI (MS-7100) v. 3.1 359 kb AMD Award BIOS 2/21/2005
1. This is Award BIOS release.
2. This BIOS fixes the following problem(s) of the previous version:
- Updates NVPXE version to 2.03.0469.
- Updates CBROM version to 1.47.
Model Version Size Platform BIOS BIOS Date Counter
K8N Neo4 Platinum SLI (MS-7100) v. 3.0 359 kb AMD Award BIOS 12/31/2004
1. This is Award BIOS release.

K8N Diamond Plus, SLI and Creative X-Fi cards, anyone running similar?

Hi there!
I've got an ASUS A8N32-SLI board and my X-Fi card does not work with it, nor does it for many other people with similar setups.
See here:
http://forums.creative.com/creativelabs/board/message?board.id=soundblaster&message.id=31426
and here:
http://forums.creative.com/creativelabs/board/message?board.id=soundblaster&message.id=26289
I get crackling and popping noises when running most games, e.g. BF2, Fear, FarCry. When my 2x7800GTX's are in SLI mode it crackles loads, e.g. start far cry, click options, and listen. When i disable SLI mode it crackles less, but it still crackles. Many others encounter similar issues with their systems that are not identical but the symptoms are similar - high load = crackling/popping.
My question is:
Is anyone here sucessfully running any X-Fi card (music, fatality, elite pro, etc) with 2x video cards and NO crackling/popping in BF2, FEAR and FarCry?
I've already had a replacement X-Fi card from creative which their tech guy said "should" fix it, lol, I'm wondering wether to replace my A8N32-SLI with an K8N Diamond Plus to fix the problem. Besides, the MSI board has better PCI slot location and works with nTune too unlike the ASUS board.

What's going on guys.
I hate to see peep's having soooo many prob's and it sucks major BALLZ. The reason why I'm reposting is that I encountered a new issue. Not with my rig, but a friend's.
We pretty much have the same setup. Differences are he's using 2GB of Corsair DDR400 (which is picking up as DDR333 as well), different branded video cards (I'm running two EVGA 7800GT's in SLi, he's running two BFG 7800GT's in SLi), XFi Platinum (me, Fatality Edition) and he's got a dedicated ITE RAID PCI card for his RAID from his previous rig. Configured his BIOS pretty much the same way I have it running (he wanted to Overclock his AMD x2 4400+ to 2.6 GHz), but when it came to installing Windows we kept getting BSOD's during installation. Looked over things numerous times and it didn't make sense. We resetted the BIOS to default settings and Windows went through without a hitch. We tried OC'ing it one more time and Windows was fine. But, when he installed and ran Quake 4, either Windows or the game would just lock up. He booted back into the BIOS and put the CPU back at stock frequency of 2.2 GHz. Game ran flawlessly afterwards. That points at the processor. The only differences were we both have different stock fans and his CPU was manufactured in July '05. Mine in Sept '05. His rig also reports the infamous "Phantom" PCI modem as well.
Quake 4 is the only game he's got installed so far, but he reports everything is set to their highest qualities, including resolution. He said it runs great with no anomalies. He's going to install Dawn of War and Winter Assault later I know.
Me? I haven't run into any issues with any games either, including F.E.A.R. as Hydrasworld asked. Both of our sound cards are in the Communication PCI Slot of the motherboard. My take on the OC issue is since we're using different proc's from different wafers, maybe my chip had revisions in September that the July proc my friend has didn't. Also, his heatsink has one less copper pipe I noticed. I'll still drop by for help. Good luck to you all and the only other thing I can add is try using the latest drivers for each piece of hardware you've got.
LPB
P.S. If you can and you purchased a retail version of the processor, on one of the sides of the carton insert for the processor, a date should be printed. Maybe that can explain some issues. Once more, my proc was manufactured September 15th, 2005.

MSI MS-7100 K8N Diamond/Platinum SLI & MS-7125 K8N Neo4 Platinum Bios and Tools

http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/other/111
for those without a diamond club membership

Hello !!
The Bios configuration depends on many factors.....but we do not know anything about your configuration. ( CPU, RAM, Powersupply.....)
If you need HDD Speed, RAID 0 will be a good Option and you should consider it.
Both Controllers, Silicon Image & nvidia, have the same speed. But i think you can not attach Optical drives to the Silicon Image Controller. ( if someone has other experiance please post )
Good Luck
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CPU cooler that works with K8N Neo4 Platinum/SLI motherboard

I have read that some say the Zalman interferes on this board with the 1, and 2 ram slots, is this true? I'm using the 3500 Winchester CPU.
Does someone have a part number if the Zalman is; a) the best, and b) clears properly.
Also I see everyone talking about Artic Silver 5. What does the"5" mean? I have Artic Silver that I have been using for about 2 years, but there iis no designation "5". Do I need the new stuff?
Thanks

I don’t know muck about artic silver, but I have a comment on the cpu-cooler question.
I recently bought a K8N SLI Platinum, which has an almost identical layout as the Neo4 Platinum. I use a Termalright XP 120 cooler which according to there webpage does not fit on this board. But I didn’t had much problem at all! It is tight with the first ram slot thaw, and with a memory just a few millimetres higher than mine it wouldn’t fit (I use TwinMOS PC3200).
Unfortunately, I don’t know if it’s a similar situation with the Zalman coolers, but I really like to recommend the XP120 (or even XP80) anyway. It keeps my cpu (althorn 3000+) at almost the same temp as the sounding system, during normal use. And since you are free to put any fan you like, you have a very good start making your system really quiet.

K8n Neo4 platinum sli and RAM placement

Hi all,Im a bit of a spazz when it comes to upgrading so was hoping you guys could help.
I have just purchased two 1 gig ram sticks to add to my 1 gig in the machine,Ram sticks are as follows:
1 gig pc3200 ddr400(double sided)
1 gig pc3200 ddr400(double sided)
512mb pc3200 ddr400(double sided)
512mb pc3200 ddr400(single sided)
Now ive noticed there is different colours on the slots so was wondering if the ram listed above should be put onto the motherboard in a certain order,and after installing it do i need to change any settings on teh pc or bios.
Thanks to anyone who can advice me on this issue.

should be fine to put straight in
the manual says
"Always insert the memory modules into the GREEN slots first, and
it is strongly recommended not to insert the memory modules into
the PURPLE slots while the GREEN slots are left empty."
also you do know that your ram will run at ddr333 rather than ddr400 - this is due to using all four slots on the mainboard

K8N Neo4 Platinum/SLI only showint 2.75Gb ram with 4Gb installed WinXP64

Hi there,
I have an MSI-7100 K8N Neo4 Platinum SLI, and I noticed that under WindowsXP Pro 64-bit, only 2.75 of the 4Gb installed are used by Windows.
Is there something I'm doing wrong? My RAM is identical GEIL Single-Channel PC3200 1Gb DDR, four of them.
-El Queso

Hi,
You need toenable the Hardware memory Re-Map Option.
You may need the latest bios - I only have a Neo2, so I don't know if/when ReMap was added to the Neo4.
Also... it's possible you also need a Rev E CPU for hardware re-mapping to work.
Peter

K8N Neo4 Platinum SLI missing 1t/2t option in bios

Hey all,
I cant see 1t2t command rate option in my bios. It is disappered. Need help pls.
System:
K8N Neo4 Platinum SLI (7100v3A bios running)
AMD athlon 64 3700+ S939 san diego (brand ID:4, model:7, stepping:2)
A-DATA 2xddr 600
not: I saw some other ppl had similar problems with their platinum ultra bords and they did solve the problem by flashing their bios to previous one.
You can read that post in here:
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=101464.msg740760#msg740760

Quote from: flobelix on 30-January-07, 21:44:59
??? I'm kind of confused... As I said I'm using the same board with the same bios and I can see and change 1T/2T.
Thanks for your reply,
Our mainboard are same but our cpu core are different. When I was using Venice everything was ok. Was using my Venice 9*300 with water cooling.
But now I have 3700+ SAN DIEGO .
Family: F
Ext. Model: 37
Revision: DH-E6
Quote from: flobelix on 30-January-07, 21:44:59
Where exactly are you trying to find this option in the bios? As Richard said make sure you enabled manual for CPU and Ram settings.
I know where I am looking.
User Config Mode --> [Manual] but there is only "Bottom of 32-bit" , "Read Preamble value" and " Async Latency value".
Quote from: flobelix on 30-January-07, 21:44:59
Please tell us exactly(!) what you changed in Cell Menu (core speed, HT, mem clock and so on), report your CPU model and stepping.
Did you clear cmos after(!) flashing 3.A mod?
After flash I remove my power cable for 1-2 mşnutes than press reset button. During post screen I enter bios to load failsafe defaults. After those steps I try to find what is good/bad with that bios.
Feel free to ask anything that can fix this problem.

PSU Dead and MOBO K8N Neo4 Platinum SLI Too, what can i do???

Yerterday i was sleeping and suddenly the PSU (Rosewill RP550) Blow away, I Inmediatly check the PSU and guess what? Fried!!! Then i went to sleep again to check the other components in the mourning. The next Mourning i took my old PSU and put an 20 to 24 pin adapter, placed it in the mobo and doesn´t work, next i put a friend PSU with 24 pin connector and nothing, next i test 2 or 3 PSUs more and nothing. After all this tests i started thinking that the mobo was having electrical issues. I went to a friend house and tested the processor ( AMD 3000+ CBBID 0505) and the Memory (OCZ Rev2 1GB), they worked. I couldn´t test the Video Card (MSI 6600GT 128MB) because i dont have any other mobo to check it.
Its Important to tell you guys that when i try to plug the PSU power conector to the MOBO the Fans and network led start for 1 second, then turn off, i try to start the computer and nothing happend. All this with the four PSUs.
A friend of mine which is a computers Technician told me that took off the MOBO batery, CPU and Memory and put Aluminiun foil all over and around the mobo to eliminate any static on it. What do yo think about this??
Please if you have any suggestion, i´ll be happy.
BTW: Which are the procedures to RMA both componnets ? I bough the mobo and PSU and the others components on www.newegg.com on May 09 2005.
Thanks for all.

Got my Newegg RMA board back (K8N Neo4 Platinum SLI) today! I mailed it to them Friday, they got it Monday and a replacement back to me today. Excellent turnaround
The board looks like it was refurbished because the anti-static bag was a bit wrinkled and had pinholes all over one section where the board couldn't have caused it. Also, it had bios 3.0 on it! The rest of the stuff in the board looks new but it didn't come with the USB 2.0 bracket which the first board I got did. Live and learn.
I flashed it to 3.2 and all appears to be working. Not gonna try 3.3. I read somewhere that there may be a beta 3.5 bios out somewhere. Maybe I'll wait till that one goes final.
Haven't had any experience with MSI support as far as RMA's but if this replacement board craps out I'll try them next.

K8N Neo4 Platinum SLI Sound Problem

I've recently build a system using the new K8N Neo4 Platinum SLI nForce4 board, which has the Creative SoundBlaster Live! 24bit onboard. The problem being the volume of the sound output (analogue) is extremely low. All volume controls in Windows are all set to full volume, but the sound output is still very very low. I consider myself pretty good with computers but with this problem I'm stumpted. Anybody else had this problem? Any insite would be very appricated.
Various info:
With my old SoundBlaster Live! Value the sound is fine
System Specs:
K8N Neo4 Platinum SLI
Athlon64 3500 Winchester
1gb PC3200 (Crucial ValueSelect RAM)
nVidia GeForce 6800 256mb
WindowsXP Professional w/ SP2
Any help will be appreciated

Ive been wanting to set up a new system based of this same motherboard, but all the power supplies Ive found so far have either been brands Im not familiar enough with or I havent been able to find a definitive answer on if the power supply supports that -5V pin(usually both, unfortunately). Can anyone point me in the right direction for a PSU under US$100? Any suggestions of power supplies anyone has had success with will also be greatly appreciated.
Ive spent about the past three days searching and have finally reached my wits end.
Second edit:
I double checked the diamond forum link (it gave a link not found page the first time), I did get to see what was posted there, but since most online retailers and manufacturer websites dont give the best view of the main connector, thats not alot of help. The only websites Im comfortable ordering from also do not evne carry the suggested power supplies, or any other unit by those manufacturer.
FINAL Edit (I promise...kinda):
I double checked on NewEgg (and then double checked FrozenCPU.com), and I found one from OCZ that doesnt totally blow my goal of USD100 or less out of the water. Lists a -5v supply, and is 24 pin for the motherboard:
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=17-104-155&depa=1
Same thing for 129.99 on FCPU, which is where Ill be ordering the power supply from.
I dont have any real need for the onboard adjustment dials of the more expensive series, and I really like the modular PSU design, not to mention the blue color scheme will work well in my blue-illuminated case.
Now, are there any other hurdles I need to be aware of?

MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum SLI sound needs -5V; newest Antec 550W has no -5V rail

I came within a whisker of ordering a non-returnable 3700 Venice, MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum SLI mobo and an upgraded Power Supply, Antec's newest 550W PS the TP2-550 EPS12V ($117). This has dual 2x24pin 12V 19A rails and is touted as the new V2.0 EPS12V/ATX12v compatible power supply for high performance SLI systems. By accident I came across a page at MSI for this mobo
http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/mai...ail.php?UID=641
At the end is this warning: MSI Reminds You...
• For this model, you must use a Power Supply which has a -5V pin supply. Also, the users manual which I downloaded on Pg 2-10 says the same thing
The above Antec PS specs do not show a -5V rail, nor does an Enermax 600W I looked at. The V2.0 specs for ATX12v which added 2x24pin 12V rails dropped -5V rail from the spec and it appears MSI is not conforming to the spec (See Antec response at end) None of the web sites selling these PS & mobos contain any warning. I vaguely recall from a forum a while back it may have something to do with the Soundblaster system in the mobo.
http://www.antec.com/us/productDetails.php?ProdID=22551 (click specifications)
Isn't this a major showstopper which is going to cause a lot of grief for those of us upgrading to SLI systems using this mobo and upgrading our PS to the newest & best power design? We won't know the PS won't work until we build the system.
Regards, Ron
Antec reply to me:
>>>>Thanks for the link. Since MSI's website does state the motherboard needs the -5v, the True550EPS12V will not work with this motherboard. The Standard (http://enhanceusa.com/documents/atx12v_v2.01.pdf) has removed the use for the -5v rail and it is no longer needed. MSI has not manufactured that motherboard to the Standard. Finding an ATX12V v2.0 power supply with the -5v might be hard to find. You should contact MSI for a compatibility list of power supplys that were tested to work with the K8N SLI Platinum.

Quote from: ccve3 on 21-May-05, 07:27:40
Wow!! syar2003 thanks for that post. I've spend an hour going through it & fasteddies links. Now I are a power expert. The dual rail argument is enough for me to go back to the MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum SLI with one of the single rail PS -5V units listed by fasteddie. The only question left now refers to computerpro3 recommendation on ultra power supplies for SLI
>>I quite simply wouldn't dream of putting anything else in my machine. Keep in mind, this section is for 2x 6800 models, not the 6600's which most any good psu will handle (like Antec Neopower, ocz 520, etc). . Pc Power and Cooling 510 Deluxe SLI edition (refer to list)
2. Zippy/Emacs 550-700w models
3. OCZ 600w (personally I would get the pcp&c for the price, but it's been proven here, so I'll be fair...).
These are really high end, expensive and only 3-4 choices. Since I'm getting one 6800GT and eventually another & possibly eventually a 4800 X2, I was hoping the OCZ 520W would do it but computerpro3 says Powermaster 520 isn't good enough for SLI. I found that there is an OCZ 600W ATX12 dual rail which surprisingly has a -5V rail needed for K8N Neo4 SLI Soundblaster. Will this meet computerpro3's preference for a high end PS for SLI systems even though I'm losing the 1 rail advantage. Maybe the 600 Watts just overwhelms the 1 rail/2 rail question.
Thanks again for the teriffic help
Regards, Ron
Wondering what you settled on. I got the Antec TP550 and it's flawless on the board. I even have the older 20pin model which works perfectly (including sound). If you really wanted what I would consider to be a top dog (pcpower and cooling), and find the -5v rail missing, all you have to do is place a phone order and request they add a -5v rail. It's a minimal cost and a total solution for having everything. Just my $0.02

X2 3800+ (E6) support for the K8N Neo4 Platinum/SLI

Hi everyone:
I have decided to purchase the K8N Neo4 Platinum/SLI (MS-7100-020) and I ready placed the order. However, I wonder if it supports the AMD X2 3800+ (E6 Version) CPU? The reason I asked the question because I found the following table from the Taiwan MSI web site which shows that X2 3800+ E6 is undertesting.
http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/mainboard/mbd/pro_mbd_cpu_support_detail.php?UID=641&kind=1
Thank you for any replies.

Mine worked, ran for 2 weeks already at stock, tried & ran to 2.2GHz on stock HSF with no problem.
Using X2 3800+ E6, MSI K8N PLI Platinum mobo, 3.7 bios & Inno3D 7800GTX single latest nvidia 78 drivers, 2x512MB DDR400 CL2.5 Kingston Ram, Hitachi T7K250 Sata 250GB HDD, NEC ND-3530A Benq 1640, , Silverstone Zeus 650W PSU
At first I have this concern too, but tried it anyway.
See my screenshots for your info.

HELP ! CPU question on MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum/SLI Motherboard

Hello i've a simple Question : Does A64 3400+ S939 works on this board ?

Hi douglasp,
Things haven't changed since K8N Neo4 Platinum SLI + athlon 64 3400+ ????
There is no AMD64 3400 939 CPU - see AMD Athlon™ 64 Processor Model Numbers and Feature Comparison
754 CPu are single channel compatable withK8N Neo Platinum
939 CPu are Dual channel. compatable with K8N Neo4 Platinum
as someone said in previous thread it's probably a misprint.

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