Strange happenings

Hi, I am currently in the middle of making a new site for a cycling club I am a member of (http://www.cqoz.com/16/) and I keep testing it but I am getting many varying results on different browsers. Even Safari is not good, as it gets some sttrange question marks in blank spaces, as does Camino web browser. Internet Explorer just alters the position of lots of things, and Firefox and Opera have strange markings in blank spaces as well.Surely this was taken into consideration when Apple made this product. I have used Freeway a fair bit, and these problems don't occur. I know it can be said that iWeb is going to be used by Apple users, so it will run OK in Safari, but surely everyone knows that if we are making a website, it will be viewed by an audience where the vast majority are going to be using Windows and Internet Explorer, so it surely should be designed to cater for this.
Anyway , can anyone spread any light on my problem, and why I am getting the strange marks even with Safari?? Thanks, John

why I am getting the strange marks
Because your ftp settings are wrong. See this note
http://homepage.mac.com/thgewecke/iwebchars.html

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Hi All,
Can anyone else elaborate on the mysterious happenings that I am experiencing in my BC Site?
With the following changes taking place;
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I have spoken to “Live Chat” about the above problems & unfortunately my request for explanations has thus far lead to nothing.
Have any other partners been able to have BC check these strange happening – by looking into previous back up version of the Data Centre? Surely BC has these?
On a funny note, the last “Live Chat” consultant asked me for proof… he wanted to see screenshots of the menu prior to it being mysteriously changed! Is he serious?
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Hey there Sidney,
Thanks for the response!
There has been a Support Ticket generated - Ticket 1303 has been escalated to Level 2 support
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2. In relation to BC's Data Centres – Can you detail the redundancy measures that BC has in place with regards to their servers & explain why when a Data Centre falls over everything falls over on that Data Centre? – And why when this takes place, that when this takes place a secondary server bank is not activated – which is the case with most other professional hosting solutions.
3. Is BC able to roll back a site to a previous version when an outage takes place? As I believe that BC should be in the position to offer this feature to it Partners – as BC in in fact a service provider that all partners rely upon heavily to provide us & our clients with the service we are paying for.
I know that within your support team, that there is defiantly a culture that is indicative of placing a lot of the blame for said problems on the actual partners, where by they believe that a lot of issues we face as partners collectively are basic HTML/Coding errors that have been created by the Partner.
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I am now becoming afraid that BC is not providing the basic level of service to its partners & in fact has dropped the ball in relation to its this & wish to point out that BC has a duty of care to provide it partners with what we are all paying for.
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Brendon

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redcon-
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It sounds like a counter variable isn't being reset. You get this quite a lot in software where there is a loop counter that the programmer likes to use (I use i,j and k habitually) and if the counter isn't set in some kind of automatic fashion then each time you run through the loop it increments over and over. Whoever is managing the bug fixes at Apple has probably given this a priority 4 or lower and so it will never be fixed.
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Sound issues - strange happenings

I am having strange problems with sound on my youview and panasonic tv combo.
When i go to on-demand and attempt to watch BBC iplayer there is no sound. When i go to 4OD the sound works everytime. If i then go back to iplayer the sound then works!
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Very strange happenings....

Hello all
There is something very strange going on with a couple of
flash movies/sites that I have created.
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iMovie has a ... "fragile" file system... I'm reading, you're doing zillions of things, while project is in process ...including getting a new hard drive, running Disk Warrior, unplugging my modem, etc. .. esp. "getting a new harddrive".. how did you accomplish THAT??... anyhow.
so, basic rule:
Don't get hasty.
In the video portion I am using and intermixing stills and video, transitions, titles, etc. .... I can undo & redo voice overs, increase volume, reduce volume on clips, add music., fade it in and out.
another rule: iMovie has problems with too much audio-editing... some recommend here, to export project after finishing editing to tape and reimport and do audio THEN...
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A website I set up last year and since updated to iWeb 08 has been doing fine - a little slow loading, but fine until now. When viewed with a browser other than Safari, the pages initially load fine, but when the page is 'scrolled', the vertical navigation bar I created goes crazy. The text is not aligned correctly and the links have red X's.
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Run a test with a test site and publish to a folder. Then follow the hints above and publish to another folder and compare folders. Hopefully some of these may help speed up your site.

[Mac] strange happenings CS4

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Symptoms affect CS4 (AI, PS, Indd, but not Acrobat or Bridge, oddly), but not other non-adobe apps that I use. AI is the worst affected: it does not remember the last place saved or visited, but always defaults to "documents" or the generic network menu. (I work off external drives for the most part). Persistent menus in the workspace, like the PMS swatchbooks, are lost every time the app is closed. Attempting to ever use the central scroll menu on a "save as" results in instant crash. PS and Indd tend to just have memory failure and crashes on using the scroll menu rather than the sidebar navigation.
I have read about some of these issues in other posts on these forums, and the suggested cures, such as deleting any general mac/adobe shared folders and plists etc in the various libraries. I've done this twice, uninstalled twice and even clean installed the whole machine after deleting the affected progs from the HD. Java is a PITA to reinstall!
I'm fairly certain I can't have cleaned the machinery out as thoroughly as I should have the last time I did this. So the reason for the query is: before I strip this thing down again, does anyone know/have experience of this kind of problem and have a kind of hitlist for what may cause any of the problems? At one time I was blaming Bridge, but I'm not so sure now.
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