Strange Mail/Gmail trash behavior - syncing trash

I'm using Apple Mail (2.1.3) with Gmail (IMAP) with my Mailbox Behaviors set: Store drafts on server (checked) Store sent (unchecked) Store junk (checked) Move deleted messages to Trash (checked) Store deleted messages on server (unchecked).
I'd like to have my Trash in Mail synced with Trash in Gmail but I can't seem to make this happen. All that appears in my Gmail trash when I composed/send/receive/delete email in Mail is many iterations of any email I compose. What seems to be happening is when I compose email in Mail, a snapshot of the draft is placed in my Gmail Trash folder periodically. If I spend 30 minutes composing an email, I will end up with 10-15 snapshots of the draft taken periodically while I was writing the email.
I've tried a variety of combinations of Mail preferences with no change in this behavior. Anyone have any ideas? I don't really mind the snapshotting, but I would like to sync the two Trash folders if possible.
Also, what is the difference between the Trash folder and Deleted Messages folder in Mail? When I check "Store deleted messages on server" in Mail preferences, a Deleted Messages folder appears in Mail and acts like Trash used to (it receives deleted messages and the old Trash folder stays empty). Neither one is synced with the Gmail trash folder...
Thanks for any help!

I've been playing with this also lately and being new to both Gmail and Apple Mail I agree that it's a little tricky. My only comment is that with regards to Trash and Deleted Messages, "Deleted Messages" appears to be a Gmail label that Apple Mail assigns to messages when you delete them (which also creates a corresponding folder in Apple Mail) - whereas Trash is the official [Gmail]\Trash folder. Due to the redundancy Google recommends NOT checking the "Move deleted messages to Trash".
http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=78892&topic=12815

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