Strange Permissions behavior

I have OS X 10.4.11 on an iMac with four user accounts. Everything has been fine.
Today I created a new user account from System Preferences, called "visitor". It seems to work, but I noticed something strange:
The files and folders in the "visitor" Home belong to user owner "visitor" and also to group "visitor". Seems strange, since my other users all have files and folders belonging to user owner (account name) and group owner "staff". Where did group "visitor" come from, and why does it not use the "staff" group ownership, as with the older user accounts? They are all standard accounts, except for one administrator.
For all that, it seems to be behaving pretty well, with one minor exception: With my administrator account, using Terminal, I cannot get access to the visitor account directories. When I do cd (directory name), nothing happens, not even an error message. A pwd reveals that the cd did not change the working directory. If I log in as root, I can roam this user hierarchy freely, but not as an admin user. I assume this has to do with the unexpected group ownership...
No serious problem, but the weird behavior has me believing I did something wrong. I tried running a Repair Permissions, but it did not change this.
I think I created those older accounts using the same procedure, but with earlier versions back to 10.2.

You didn't do anything wrong. That is normal in Tiger. In earlier versions of OS X and, I believe, in Leopard, users are members of the staff group and the standard ownership on files in their home directories is username:staff (i.e. owner username, group staff).
In Tiger, Apple changed this so that every user corresponds to a unique group of the same name. The default settings on files in users' home directories is username:username. When you created the new user, you also created a new group by the same name.
The older accounts reflect the settings in the version of OS X in which you created them. When you migrated those accounts to Tiger, the migration assistant must have brought the default ownership settings etc. over. It is actually these accounts which are anomalous by Tiger's standards. I wouldn't lose too much sleep over it, though, unless, perhaps, you have users you really cannot trust.
I believe the change in Tiger was security related. In Leopard, the default use of Access Control Lists is used to tighten security instead. Tiger's behaviour is odd, though, and certainly not standard unix behaviour.
sudo cd does not work. It has nothing to do with the group ownership issue:
pwd
-> /Users/myname/tmp
sudo cd /Users
-> password:**
pwd
-> /Users/myname/tmp
- cfr

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