Strobe - shift fields issues; HDV to SD slowmo and mpeg-2 to DV25 conv?

1)Shift fileds FCP and PAL SD?
I have problem with shift fileds. I use mpeg-2 PAL
material converted to DV25 by using the free software
MPEG Streamclip 1.8. It is material from
www.thenewsmarket.com I put the converted clips on an
PAL SD timelie in FCP. This I mix with DV PAL material
filmed with a Canon XH-A1. FCP should fix the field
order but still I get strobe effect.
What shall I do?
what you should do depends on the nature of the problem. a little knowledge can be a dangerous thing. are you certain that the issue you are looking at is one of incorrectly interpreted field order? if it is, then you can manually apply the Shift Field filter to correct for this.
2) Strobe problem downconverting HDV to SD slowmotion
clips?
When I downconvert HDV material to SD buy changing the
HDV timeline to a new SD timeline, what has been
edited with a slowmotion effect, the sd material in
slowmotion strobes like it has a field order problEm.
If I remove the clip and put the HDV material to the
sd timeline directly the same happends. What is it?
How do I solve it?
again, what you should do depends on the nature of the problem. indeed, HDV and DV do not have the same native field order, but are you sure that is th eproblem in this instance? how slow is this slow mo? how did you create the slow mo? it may be that the strobing effect is the natural result of the slow mo.
Studio 2 PAL and Canon XH-A1
3) Software that shift fields of mpeg-2 clips?
I have used MPEG Streamclip 1.8 to convert mpeg-2
clips to DV25 but it doesn´t work when I have mpeg-2
clip that has wrong fieldorder ( I want lower fleld
PAL)
Is there a software that shift fields of mpeg-2 clips
for MAC?
the orginal MPEG2 files already have the wrong field order? and you want software that can correct for that field order problem during the conversion process? try DVDxDV Pro or Cinematize (both commercial). alternatively there is JES Deinterlacer for after the fact correction.

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