Stuck: can't re-install Panther, only 10.0.3
OK, I've posted this also on iMac CRT.
Here's a short story:
Panther ran beautifully fore quite a while, then started to have kernel panics due to faulty RAM.
I just replaced the 2 128 Mb sticks that were faulty with a brand new 512 from Crucial.
But still could'nt start-up in Panther. Got freezes during installation always on the first CD. Also got panics (cpu 0) or "can't find PowerMac drive".
Ran DiskWarrior and there was a whole bunch of stuff wrong and repaired.
Still same symptoms.
Everything was backed-up and I zeroe'd the HD
Then re-installed OS 9.1, updated with OS 9.2.1 with CD. All was well, then I could'nt install Panther. Same symptoms.
I got fed-up, changed the HD, brand new Western Digital 80 GB.
Started over again and same results: OS9 OK, no-go on Panther...
I can install OS 10.0.3 that came with the beast but can't upgrade to 10.1 with the CD that also came with the iMAc. Say's that the installer unexpectadely quit (error 0)...
Panther disks are retail, could they be faulty ???
Any ideas anyone
Thanks
Well, it is mind bogling cause:
1) OS 9.2.1 is installed and bootable
2) OS X ver 0.3 is installed and bootable
Both OS run fine.
I tried again this morning by booting with the Panther CD's:
- still no possibility to repair OS 9
- still offers only an Archive and Install, that failed.
I went to look in the Receipts file but there's only packages concerning OS 10.0, nothing on 10.3
I couldn't start in Single User to fiddle around with it maybe I could try stuff in Terminal
I had to leave for work,(yes even on Easter...) so I started the Apple Hardware Test in loop mode and I'll see around midnite if something shows up.
There's nothing important on the HD so I could erase everything and start over but I don't feel it will work since I've just did that.
I think it's something else,
- Bad CD (it's 10.3.0
- Bad RAM (even though it's brand new, I'll have to check it with Memtest if I can run it)
- Bad wiring somewhere inside
- Bad luck...
If there's any other ideas, there welcome of course...
Happy Easter all
iMac snow 500 Mhz,80GB,512RAM Mac OS X (10.3.9)
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Stuck: can't re-install Panther, only OS 10.0.3
OK, I've posted this also on OS 10.3 and earlier.
Here's a short story:
Panther ran beautifully fore quite a while, then started to have kernel panics due to faulty RAM.
I just replaced the 2 128 Mb sticks that were faulty with a brand new 512 from Crucial.
But still could'nt start-up in Panther. Got freezes during installation always on the first CD. Also got panics (cpu 0) or "can't find PowerMac drive".
Ran DiskWarrior and there was a whole bunch of stuff wrong and repaired.
Still same symptoms.
Everything was backed-up and I zeroe'd the HD
Then re-installed OS 9.1, updated with OS 9.2.1 with CD. All was well, then I could'nt install Panther. Same symptoms.
I got fed-up, changed the HD, brand new Western Digital 80 GB.
Started over again and same results: OS9 OK, no-go on Panther...
I can install OS 10.0.3 that came with the beast but can't upgrade to 10.1 with the CD that also came with the iMAc. Say's that the installer unexpectadely quit (error 0)...
Panther disks are retail, could they be faulty ???
Any ideas anyone
ThanksHi Ron,
This is what I have on Open Firmware:
Apple Powermac4, 1 4.1.9f1 BootROM built on 09/14/01 at 13:18:04
Yesterday and last night I ran the Hardware Test in loop mode and got twice an error concerning the modem. It is not and was not in use recently and normally I use the Ethernet connection for WWW.
The error code was: modm/2/8
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On restart, I had the pleasure of having the question mark, so I tried booting with Panther CDs and only got panics.
On the first time there was only the dark window asking to restart. On the second try, I got the usual: (CPU 0) Unable to find driver... and lower: no debugger configured...
So I booted with the OS 9 CD, repaired the disk and got:
Invalid catalog record type,4,1499
SOS can not repair disk
I repaired a second and third time and both were then OK.
Because I have nothing of consequence on the HD and a bit out of frustation, I reformatted (extended) and reinstalled OS 9 and all went OK.
This is were I'm at now, had to leave for work.
This modem error, could it be the culprit?
Is it repairable?
I'm still not convinced about the Panther CDs, I'll try to find another set.
I'll post this also on my other thread in OS X 10.3 and earlier to keep Gulliver informed.
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Formatting, Partitioning Zeroing a Hard Disk Drive
Warning! This procedure will destroy all data on your Hard Disk Drive. Be sure you have an up-to-date, tested backup of at least your Users folder and any third party applications you do not want to re-install before attempting this procedure.
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Select First Aid in main panel.
Click Repair Disk Permissions.
Connect to Internet.
Download and install 10.3.9 Combo Update
Computer will restart after updates.
Go to Applications > Utilities > Disk Utility.
Select your HDD (manufacturer ID) in left side bar.
Select First Aid in main panel.
Click Repair Disk Permissions.
Please post back with further questions or comments.
Good luck.
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first of all, sorry for my bad english, and lack of capitals : i am using an old version of internet explorer version 5 i guess, which does not recognise the french characters, accents, capitals and the rest...
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