Stumped - Video Bit Rate too High Error

I just upgraded to FCP 7x and I am trying to burn a disc on DV Studio Pro. It runs through the rendering fine, then when it is ready to burn it shuts down and says the video bit rate to high. So I went to the manual and the manual suggested changing the codec to Apple Pro 422, something like that. I did and am now still getting the same error. This has never happened before and I've been using FCP for 6 years. Anybody know what to do or has had a similar problem?

mvp productions wrote:
It runs through the rendering fine
Let's get some terminology correct. I believe you mean it "compresses" fine. How are you compressing the file. In Compressor?
the manual suggested changing the codec to Apple Pro 422
I think you may have misread that. All SD DVD's are made from m2v files for picture and ac3 or aif files for audio. Pro Res is an editing codec.
This is my quick and easy how to make a first play SD DVD.
Just send the sequence to Compressor (Right click the sequence and send or export to Compressor). From Compressor choose the settings for DVD Best Quality 90 minutes (If your project length is longer choose a longer time). Submit the files. This will create 2 files. An m2v for picture and ac3 for audio.
Bring both of those files into DVDSP. Add the files to the empty track (a green box). Right click the track and select first play. Build the DVD then Burn.

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