Style presets, swatches, etc. uneditable after they are created?

Why are style presets, swatches, etc. uneditable after you create them? A preset is simply a collection of style or colour settings so why can't I click on it, or choose "edit", or bring up the presets manager, to open the fx or colour dialogue to tweak it? Why do I have to manually create a new instance of the preset and delete the old one? Ideally I should be able to tweak a style and have every element that has that style applied to it change without having to manually reapply a new preset. Talk about tedious.
Please correct me if I am mistaken and am just missing something obvious. I would love to be wrong on this one. This is killing me.

The style preset is a known object. That specific object can be referenced by an action or script. If you could change the object, then the result of the action or script will be different on different systems, and at different times, depending on your whims in changing the style preset.
What you edit on the LAYER is not a preset - those are live values.
But the preset is fixed after creation, so you can reliably reuse those values.
Yes, there are many reasons that presets should not be editable.
Yes, they are not always obvious, but I'm trying to give you the basics.
An analogy: I have a specific set of font outlines that I like, and I saved it as Myriad Pro. Now I can use Myriad Pro, pass around documents that use Myriad Pro and keep those documents editable while knowing that everyone will see the same shapes I saved. If anyone could change Myriad Pro at any time, then I could never be sure that everyone was looking at the same shapes when using my font (which might no longer be my font). Also, if it's too easy to change (ie: all changes made after selecting it are saved), then people would constantly be changing it, probably without even realizing their mistake.

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