Styling In Mail

Hi all,
Just a quick one, in Outlook you can easily add unordered lists and align things right all left fairly easily... Can this be done in Mail? I am trying to style my signature... I want to add some leading, tabbing and an unordered list... Or do I need to do this all in a HTML program?
I did see "Styles" in Mail but it won't let me edit anything...
Thanks!
Tom

hello?
is there a solution?

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Recently my Mail application stopped allowing me to style fonts. Its not a big issue really but it should work, and it used to, now it doesn't.
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After seeing one of the e-mails in question, I think I was able to locate the problem. Hopefully the original poster will be able to confirm this.
Apple Mail seems to have created a very complex HTML e-mail message. This may have been caused by copying a signature from another program like Word. While Apple Mail can display such a message, it would not surprise me that PC e-mail programs couldn't handle it.
Here is but a tiny sample of a 6-line message with 2-line signature. There is actually much more to this section, but I didn't want to paste all of it in here. Keep in mind there is no actual content.
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nt></div></b=
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font></div></div></i=
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b></div><=
/font></div></div></spa=
n></div><=
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v></div></sp=
an></div></div><=
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