Sub contract in Project System

Dear PS Experts,
In our Manufacturing process max going on Sub Contracting only. for ex: There are 10 operation is going on there, the first process going throgh the Sub Contracting but here we are issuing material and power to contracter free of cost. How can we capture the this senario. After completation of this Process then 2 nd process is going on, then also we are giving some material and power to that Contractor for free of cost. How can we Calculate the Cost of each operartion and how can we allocate mateiral and power costs for each process wise. Can i have any inputs.
thanqu
raj

hi
you can use workcenter/cost center / activity type. price maintenance for the activity type KP26.

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Can some one please help me in understanding how Project system (PS) is supporting sub-contracting scenarios.
I am looking for activity sub-contracting and also sub-contracting with Project stock materials.
I am aware of normal sub-contracting through production order and also sub-contracting through MM. I am specifically looking for sub-contracting in PS.
Thanks and warm regards,
Jagadeesh

Hi,
If requirements for subcontract items (or services) are generated automatically from PS just make sure that the right document category is used (subcontract) then any requisitions or planned orders etc. will have the right category.
There is no difference between PP, PS and PM effectively, they all use subcontracting in the same way it is just how the requirement is triggered that is slightly different.
If you need details on how to trigger the right type of requirement through PS then you may need to use one of teh financial forums that cover PS? (is there one?)
Steve B

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Can we issue material from Sub-contracting from project stock.problem like this.first we are going issue raw material into project.then we want issue that raw material to sub-contracting vendor.how we can handle this issue.please tell me the steps.
Thanks & Regards
Pavan

hi,
u can customize the combination of L and Q
in
sproMMpurchasingaccount assignmentDefine Combination of Item Categories/Account Assignment Categories
then test ur subcontracting cycle
rewards appreiciated if solve the problem
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I would like to know how a contract can be created in relation to a project if possible?
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Hi Paula,
If you want to create a contract on a project (OTP element), you just have to select the account assignment type "P" at line item of the contract. You will then be able to fill in the WBS element.
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Project stock - sub-contracting - Challan matl is different from matl doc

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We have sub-contracted with project stock ( Special stock Q ) materials to SC vendor.
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" Challan material is different from material document"
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Sub contract to a project

Hii
I have a Question,
I have an organisation where one project-A is having 100000$ and it gave a sub-contract to project-B for 20000$, I need to track how Project-B performs the work, how do i check the billing for both the projects...???
Shall i take project-B as a subtask in project-A if so how to process it, or I should use INTERCOMPANY BILLING between two operating units
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Hi There,
These are the Pre-requisites
1. Internal Supplier defined (Ex-Internal-Vision Operations)
2. Internal Customer defined (Ex-Internal-Vision Operations)
3. Two projects should be created Main Project & Sub Project
4. In Provider & receiver controls give Provider as supplier defined above & receiver as Customer defined above
5. In main Projects Structures check Program Reporting Checkboxes A) Setup Project as Program & B) Allow Linked Projects to belong to multiple programs
6. For main project task associate the sub-project as sub-project association & in task details check the check-box Receive Inter project invoices
7. In Sub-Project Customer & contact details Check the checkbox Bill another Project & give the receiver project as Main Project number & Customer details should be the Internal Customer defined above
8. Create agreements for both Projects
After the above setup is done follow the below mentioned process
1. Enter Expenditures on Provider Project
2. Generate Draft inter project Invoice
3. Approve & Release the draft
4. Interface Invoice to receivables
5. Run Tieback form Receivables
6. Invoice is automatically created in Oracle Payables
7. AP Invoice Import
8. Validate the Invoice in Oracle Payables
9. Create Auto accounting & transfer to GL
10. Interface supplier costs in main project
11. Update Performance
12. View Costs On receiver project
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Partial Production & Partial Sub contracting for halb material

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we have fert 1000 with halb 2000 and roh 3000. It's MTO Process and for fert i have selected collective indicator 2 and MRP Run with MD50. If halb 2000 stock is available it will be show as stock in md04 screen and if stock is not available we run mrp md03 for halb to genereate planned order. My client wants here to check the capacity availability to produce that halb..if it is available for say qty 1 then partially production order will be created and rest another qty say 1 more will be given to sub contract. In material master i have taken X as procurement type. when i am converting the planned order to purchase requsition i entered the item category as L with out any account assignment. I am not able to take goods receipt for sub contracted material because system is throwing error as account requires and assignment to co object. I also tried using account ssignment M but if do so the received sub contract material is shown against the sales order number stock..so again from there i need to trasfer to unrestriced for using to the header fert production order. I want the halb production order cost and subcontract cost to be accounted to sales order.
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Hi,
I believe your solution may be:
1) make settings that while you release the production order system checks the capacity availability, if there then release the order otherwise do not release the order.
2) I think you can go for production version option too where you can either go for external subcontracting or inhouse production.
3) I think you have project systems there. So the cost will definately go to the project if the requirement is against a WBS elememnt for the project & the settings in FICO module have done by your Fi person.

Problems getting print-out of Sub-contracting challan

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we,ve had real problem getting the print0out of sub contracting challan.
System wouldn't show any print-preview of the sub contracting challan.
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GRN Qty should be less than Sub contracting Challan Qty

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When we put Sub Contract Challn at the time of receving Sub Contract material MIGO, system should pick up challn Quty, or System should accept less qty than Challan Qty.
Can we do the same ?
Please help me.
Thanks in Advance
Yogesh

HI,
Yes GRN Qty should be same or less than Sub contracting Challan Qty, system will allow you do the reconcilation with J1ifq or if the challan qty less then GRN quantity at the time system wont allow you to do the reconcilation
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Pramod

Project Sub contracting - 311 Q - Message no. M7 019

Dear All,
We are using project sub contracting with movement type 311 Q.
While posting stock to vendor storage location through t code MB1B, I am not able to post the stock with reference to Purchase Order.
System is giving below error:
Combination of movement type 311 Q and function selected not possible
Message no. M7019
We have maintained the movement type "311 Q", in confirguration for "Maintain Movement Type Groups" under "Subcontracting"
and assigned the movement type group to excise grouop under "Subcontracting Attributes".
I have searched through sdn but couldn't find any answer.
Would request you to please help.
Thanks & Regards,
MP

Hello,
Thanks for your inputs.
But in this case, how will I track with reference to Purchase Order, how much material i have sent. I can enter Purchase order number also in the screen layout for movement type 311.
But still i am lossing the line item relevant details while sending material to vendor.
Please help.
Thanks & Regards,
Mihir Popat

Project Sub contracting

Dear All,
We are following project sub-contracting process.
As per SAP recommendation, we have created a new storage location for vendor as XXXX u2013 Vendor storage location.
And we are sending material to vendors with movement type 311 u2013 Q.
While posting material to vendor, we are able to track Purchase Order number and Vendor Code. But we are not able to track Purchase Order Line item.
Hence it is difficult to reconcile PO, line item wise, how much material is sent to vendor.
Here, same material is sent to vendors in different line items of the PO.
1. It is not possible to reference purchase order and line items, while posting the document through t code MB1B with movement type 311 Q
Error: "Combination of movement type 311 & function selected not possible"
2. It is not possible to add PO line item (EBELP) field for movement type 311 in t code OMJJ.
Error: "Field EBELP is not allowed for transaction type 311.
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Thanks & Regards,
sap.mm.consultant

Hello Mahesh,
Thank you very much for your response.
We are already maintaining Purchase Order. My question is about how to track PO line item. I have added PO number and vendor for movement type 311 but i am not able to add field (EBELP) PO line item, while posting material to vendor storage location.
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sap.mm.consultant

Material To be Valuated in Project System

Hi All,
We are implementing PS,MM,SD,FI &CO for a companay which works essentially on engineer to order scenario and using vlauated projec stock & actvity account assigned networks
Inhouse production is through typical assembly processing process - Where input & output materials are transferred through BOM PS Transfer from WBS BOM.
Input materials are issued to activity; work performed by work centers are entered by confirmation; at completion of work out put materials is 'Received from activity'. Both material issue and receipt are done wrt reservation.
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At month end if the company wants to know the current asset from project and relevant stocks:
= WIP of project + Inventory value of the mmaterials.
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The process is alright and I think we are alos complying to Accounting stanadard for project system - directive from Institute of Chartered accounts - India.
This process was first aceeptable to customer; but now they say - the out put materials should be valuated. So that, when inventory value is taken - it is RM+BO and valuated semifinished +valuaed finished materials
One big reason they say is that they have to show inventory value to the Banks.
Now I need clarification in following points
1. How to valuate the out put material when working only with project system. (apart from using user exit )
2. If this is done, the project cost/WIP calculations will show ups amd downs - as goods receipt with valuated value will be with sign - this will reduced the cost. This will cause variuos problems - almost no standard SAP PS cost report will reflect the reality - WIP can not go up and down...This is illogical.
3. Have you faced similar situation in implementation - that - Banks can not be conviced about this PSway of WIP calculation? Taking into consideration that project implementation is in India - an experienced reply can be very helpful
Thanks and regards
A.Saravanan

Dear Pradeep,
When we work with network/activity/wbs element, Finished material is assigned to activity with sign. This means GR can be done. Technically system treats lke by-product. This material will not be valuated with in put costs...since there is no logic...For our convention, one WBS element, one network or one activity can be used to book all related costs..but still GR will happen with valuation as per valuation variant in NW only. This is quite logical and correct.
So...customer wants to know the cost of manufacturing a complex project assembly..then process under one WBS element..cost accumuated at that WBS element is cost of mfg. I have kept such finihed material std price at Rs.1. (Ideally it should be '0'.). Meaning material will not valuated.
Now if customer wants to knwo the cost ...look at WBs element
If needed, you can do unit costing and update the value in a suitable field in material master.
Therefore, I have kept all the semifinished/finished material std price at Rs.1.
This way..std functions of PS like RA, costforecasting are work properly.
For WIP calculation, this is of standard method and WIP will be current asset of company..this will be acceptable to Banks...one concern I had..cross checked with a Banker.
Another issue was sub-contracting. In India during S/C..we have Delivery challan and legal requirement of excise. We developed a program integrating dc, excise challan, transfer posting, goods issue against reservation and mateials assigned in activity. For user it will appear as one transcation, and system will propmt/list appropriate excise challan No. based on dc no & material as input...(I hope i remember right).
Again here GR of seni/finished naterial was atRs.1. since Service cosst, matarial issue cost get booked at activty.
Thanks and regards
Saravanan.A

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Please dont raise any thread in Bold letters.....
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Is there anything that I am missing in customising settings or is this related to activation of any business function sets.
I am working in ECC 6.0 EhP 5.0.
Need your help / inputs so as to resolve my issue.
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Hi Tehsin,
Thanks for ur response.
However this is something I am aware of. The settings suggested by you will automatically generate a PR with Account Assignemnt Category as 'Order' (F) & Item Category as 'Service' (D) combination.
I am looking for the auto generation of PR through the maintenance order with Account Assignemnt Category as 'Order' (F) & Item Category as 'Sub Contracting' (L) combination.
Looking forward to hear from all.
Thanks in advance
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