Sub Contracting: CO product is lying with vendor instead fo own

Hi expert
when i am taking Co product with movement 545 (0).system showing stock with vendor instead of own storage location,
regad
Nabil

Hi
USe of 545 O movemnet
If a component is entered with a negative quantity for the subcontract order, the receipt of the by-product is posted to stock provided to vendor during goods receipt for purchase order or during the subsequent adjustment.
so now you need to do 542 movement manually to bring back the stock to unrestricted use

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