Sub-contracting External Processing PP-PI

hI,
I am trying to create sub-contracting order through SAP PP-PI.
I have a FG - X, with components X1 & X2.
I have 3operations and 3 phases in the Recipe for X.
The 2nd phase is having the control key for external processing, because of which i had to assign Purc.Info record to this phase.
( Pls note that its not allowing me to enter a PIR of material/vendor combination, hence had to create for Material Group/ Vendor).
Now when i Create and release a Process order for X, there is a Pur req created but it has no material, and i cant change anything in this Pur. req.
Please help.

Hi,
When a Preq is created for external processing, the material is not copied in to the Preq. This is std SAP behavior. However with EhP4, this functionality is made available. You need to activate this functionality and then some code changes has to be done in the BADI in order to copy the material from order to Preq. I don't remember the BADI, but I am sure there is one.
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You want to buy material from the supplier (processed material/ assembled item) , but for some reason (quality of certain item / price ) you will give some component to vendor .
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4.Issue material to vendor with movement type 541
5.Receive the material against the PO with movement type 101.
6.MIRO to account for vendor's invoice for the service charge& material used by him.
Note:: At the Time of GR 543 Mvt is up dated for Raw Material.
Can anybody tell me how a process has to be given to subcontracting?
Suppose, I have 3 operations 1)weaving 2)dyeing 3)cutting & packing
if no 2 process (i.e Dyeing) has to be given to subcontracting, what process should i follow ?
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1. Item code(material master) to be created at the stage of before dyeing.
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