Sub Contracting of Semifinished goods
HI
ALL
In My senerio Finished goods is created by 6 different stages ...for each stage i have a BOM and Routing these BOm and Routings are different for all these 6 stages ...
Now i want to subcontracting in this senerio .
For example
Stage 1
Stage 2
Stage 3----
the material should go with stages 3 material code and come in as stage 4 material code.
Stage 4
Stage 5
Stage 6
Finished Product - final stage
All the material Codes are already created and in use also ...
Now i want how to map this IN PP ...
Regards
Ramanujam
Ramanujam,
You would be getting the following output as per below,
Stage 1 - Material A- GR and Consume raw materials for the production order
Stage 2 - Material B - GR and Consume Material A for the production order
Stage 3 - Material C Maintained with special procurement key 30 and Procurement type "F" in MRP 2 view. Itwould have BOM with Component B. Material C GR against subcontract PO, Material B moved to vendor stock and gets Issued when performing GR againsts subcontract order.
Stage 4 - Material D - GR and Consume Material C for the production order
Stage 5 - Material E - GR and Consume Material D for the production order
Stage 6 - - Material F - GR and Consume Material E for the production order
Material F is the final product.
Regards,
Prasobh
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Dear Experts,
I am working on a scenerio where
Plant A is sending Components to Plant B.
Then In plant B the processing is done on those components and a semifinished material is made.
Then the Semifinished Material is recieved back into plant A.
I am trying to map this process in SAP like as INTER COMPANY SUBCONTRACTING.
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1) Sub-contracting PO in plant A. (me21n)
2) Outbound delivery against PO in plant B.
But facing problem while taking Goods Reciept against Outbound delivery in plant....it is showing error
*Goods receipt not possible for delivery 800050: error code 3*
can anybody tell me where i am doing a mistake. or plz suggest if any customisation required for this process
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Check in PO confirmation tab have you maintained any confirmation controle key.If yes Po requires inbound delivery.If you dont want to create Inbound delivery Remove confirmation controle key in Po confirmations tab.Then do MIGO it will allow. -
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For subcontracting purchase order at the time of goods reciept for
15 kg of the component COMP-1 at $20/kg = $300
5 pcs of the component COMP-2 at $30/pc = $150
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As per the SAP standard the below entry is shown as example. my user is asking when the value of external service is loaded in the
stock account end product as 950 then why again external service account as 500 again debited separately
can anybody explain clearly this entry. because my user is expecting only 1) gr/IR , 2)SEMIFINISHED GOODS(Which is recived from sub contractor) 3) Rawmaterial account( which is issued for sub contract) 4) Raw materail consumption account.
I am unable to explain about external service account and change involving stock accounts. Please give ur valuable time to answer me?
At goods receipt
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Stock account: comp. 450 -
Consumption account 450 +Dear,
Go to transaction code OBYC , check the G/L account against Account key FRL . That is the G/L which will hit instead of inventory account while doing goods receipt . Suppose Rs5/- per one unit of service and 100 units of service will be provided. Then this Rs 500/- will hit this G/L account which is provided by FRL accnt key .This will be balanced by GR/IR clearing account.
Then in OBYC check account key BSV. The G/L which will be assigned to this key will be the change in stock G/L.Suppose we receive a finished goods worth Rs1000/- . Then against Finished goods inventory account this account will get balanced.
Then in OBYC click on GBB accnt key , then check account modifier VBO . Against valuation classs check the G/Ls . During subcontracting the raw material which gets consumed will hit this G/L account. Suppose we used one Rs 800/- worth of raw material. Then during GR this will be consumed. So inventory credit and Consumption account debit . That consumption account is maintained at this location.
These are the three accnt keys which are used for subcintracting account determination.
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Manual Cycle .
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Gr/IR Clearing Account = 164335
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Price diffrences arise during valuation @ GR if the material is managed at standard price in MMR.
Also there is one more setting in customizing that for a plant that price differences should or not be posted during GR.
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after return from vendor with mvt type 105 (543) i check document list with MB51. i found following g/l account effects :
SFG consumption for sub contract account = 602026
Gr/IR Clearing Account = 164335
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Inventory account = 320010
Costs of goods mfg = 602200
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Inventory account = 320010
Gr/IR Clearing Account = 164335
Price Differance Account = 602155
change in stock = 603010
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SFG-inventory account = 323055
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my question is why this differance comes ?
if i want gl accounts hit by manual process in MRP process what changes to be made ?Hi
Kindly check with the following:
In customizing for that plant price differences should or not be posted during GR.
SPRO->IMG>MM>Inv MGmt>GR-->price differences for subcontracting at GR
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Message no. 8I572
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SPRO > Logistics - General > Tax on Goods Movements > India > Business Transactions > Subcontracting > Subcontracting Attributes >
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Sorry if i miss understood but note 352243 says to refer note: 338119
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