Sub Contracting PO Collaboration Process, Manual GR in SNC using Goods Recipient View

Hi,
I have a 3rd party PO in R/3 with the SC Vendor tick. So PO is sent to my Vendor A who will have 'ship-to- Party' as Vendor B and me as buyer.
So Vendor A can log into PO Details (Supplier) and do confirmation (Acknowledgement - AB) and ASN (LA).
And the same can be seen by Vendor B in ASN Details (Goods Recipient) login.
{ Delivery -> ASN Maintenance -> ASN Overview (Goods Recipient) / ASN Details (Goods Recipient) }
The challenge is two fold:
1) The GR needs to be done by Vendor B once he receives the goods. The GR option does not exist in Goods Recipient view but in Customer View (Buyer) only. Since the goods are going to be shipped to Vendor B, I need him to do the GR in lieu of me; the buyer.
2) Once he manages to do the GR, standard SNC does not give me option to send the msg back to my R/3 system. I also do not have a msg output type in SNC that I send the signal back to R/3 once the Vendor B does the GR. So which program / user exit do i enhance to send this msg back to R/3.

Hi Poorna,
You will get answers to your all questions on these links:
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_47x200/helpdata/en/96/df293581dc1f79e10000009b38f889/frameset.htm
www.http://sap-img.com/sap-mm.htm
Rewards are useful.
Best of Luck
Pradeep S Yekunde

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Purchase account                -e-   -e- -e-   40 --Missing- 50 --Missing-
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