Sub Contracting Process
my client running fg sub contracting (electro plating )cycle through the MRP
after return from vendor with mvt type 105 (543) i check document list with MB51. i found following g/l account effects :
SFG consumption for sub contract account = 602026
Gr/IR Clearing Account = 164335
SFG-inventory account = 323055
for sub contract account = 602130
Inventory account = 320010
Costs of goods mfg = 602200
but if do whole sub contracting cycle without MRP i can see effect in following G/L a/C:
Manual Cycle .
Inventory account = 320010
Gr/IR Clearing Account = 164335
Price Differance Account = 602155
change in stock = 603010
Sub Contract expense = 603000
SFG-inventory account = 323055
SFG consumption for sub contract account = 602026
my question is why this differance comes ?
if i want gl accounts hit by manual process in MRP process what changes to be made ?
Hi
Kindly check with the following:
In customizing for that plant price differences should or not be posted during GR.
SPRO->IMG>MM>Inv MGmt>GR-->price differences for subcontracting at GR
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award if helpful -
Dear All,
We are following project sub-contracting process.
As per SAP recommendation, we have created a new storage location for vendor as XXXX u2013 Vendor storage location.
And we are sending material to vendors with movement type 311 u2013 Q.
While posting material to vendor, we are able to track Purchase Order number and Vendor Code. But we are not able to track Purchase Order Line item.
Hence it is difficult to reconcile PO, line item wise, how much material is sent to vendor.
Here, same material is sent to vendors in different line items of the PO.
1. It is not possible to reference purchase order and line items, while posting the document through t code MB1B with movement type 311 Q
Error: "Combination of movement type 311 & function selected not possible"
2. It is not possible to add PO line item (EBELP) field for movement type 311 in t code OMJJ.
Error: "Field EBELP is not allowed for transaction type 311.
In such cases, I would request you to give your inputs on how to track PO line item while posting material to vendor storage location.
Thanks & Regards,
sap.mm.consultantHello Mahesh,
Thank you very much for your response.
We are already maintaining Purchase Order. My question is about how to track PO line item. I have added PO number and vendor for movement type 311 but i am not able to add field (EBELP) PO line item, while posting material to vendor storage location.
Thanks & Regards,
sap.mm.consultant
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