Sub-contracting returns to quality
Hai Experts,
I have one scenario..
I have sub-contracting process. In which some time i used get componets return, which i need to take into quarantine location.
present i used to take material by using 542 MOVEMENT TYPE. But it is going to unrestricted area..
Which movement type i have to use for taking stock to quarantine.
waitting for experts suggestions.
suggestions will be rewarded.
Hi,
Use MIGO - Remove from storage (Mvt. Type: 303) and Place in Storage (Mvt. Type: 305)
Regards,
VB
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Error in Quantity Reconciliation in Sub Contracting Return
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In a case of sub contracting return, we are taking the material X back from the vendor through MT 542. Now we are trying to do quantity reconciliation for X from J1IFQ.We filled up the assignment quantity , which is a column , just beside the column open quantity.The system is showing an error that
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Message no. 8I574
But th assigned quantity is exactly equal to the open quantity
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ChandraDear Chandra,
Pl check status of material documenty in J_1IGRXSUB table and compare it with respective Table entries in MSEG & J_1IEXCDTL table.
Check wheter scrap qty is maintained.
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Sub-contracting Quality Rejection issue in QA32.
Dear sir.
when i am returning material to vendor in QA32 , i am getting the bellow error .( it is sub-contracting return process , scrap quantity is also there.).
1 KG Incorrect posting back to vendor, error message:
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JRPDear.
You receive error message M7096 "Goods movement not possible with mvmt type 546" right.
You can use Transaction OMJJ to include the table entries. Enter 546 as the movement type and select the 'Allowed transactions' option. Make the additional entries here.
Or,
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Hi,
We have an issue that,
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We have an issue that,
when we return to vendor a sub contract Finished goods from Quality Inspection
(T code QA32).System will return components(mvmt 544) also along with FG
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Sub Contracting Order & Vendor Return
Hi,
We use to send Materials to our Sub Contracting Vendor (MB1B - Mov. Type 541).
Now in one of the cases, we had to cancel all the Orders given to the Vendor, and we want the Materials back from the Vendor.
The Materials need to move to Quality also, as per our requirement from the Quality Department.
Should we take back the Materials with Mov. Type 542 or is there any other Movement Type for the same.
What all changed needs to be done in MM& QM.
Also requested to send me the List of Movement Types.
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I have the same requirement, I was going through the process you mention but I was unable to find the Inspection lot origin 08
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Return of scrap from vendor Sub contracting
Dear gurus
Pls advice me on how to map this scenario
we are sending two raw materials to subcontractor for a semi finished product. during the process scrap is also generated which is of value to the organization and they need to receive it from the sub contractor.
now hot to work on this scenario
your valuable advice is greatly appreciated
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JohnHi,
create a material master record for the scrap material. Maintain the scrap material with a negative quantity either in the BOM or in the material components while creating the subcontracting PO.
Post the components to Vendor's stock with movement type 541. Later send the materials to vendor physically. While receiving the materials (Goods Receipt) w.r.t.the sub contracting PO with MT 101, the following postings happen,
components will be posted with movement type 543 ( - ) and the scrap with MT 545 'O' (stock category) [MT 545 - material lying at Vendor's location]. Later u can take back this scrap material from the vendor with movement type 542. This is the complete procedure in terms of goods movements.
Don't forget to Reward, if found useful.
Regards,
Varma -
Cancellation of 122 for Sub contracting PO
Dear Sir/mam
Child item send to vendor through 541and when Parent material is received we do migo 101 for Parent Material and stock is posted to quality,if accpeted it is in unrestricted but if rejected we post to return delivery and mvt type 122.Can i cancel the this document can i get some filed of identification that its it sub contracting PO.Problem is we have received the parent but we have send the child so if i had done 122 so child item po is open and i want to send the parent back through 57A4.So please throw some light how to track and resolve .
regards
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Kunal
Lets' Understance the situation.
You have send some material to vendor by 541(Child)
Now when material is returned
Assembly Number-Parent is 101
But all sub-assemblied-child items are with 543 mvt tye.
When you do return delivery to vendor
that is 122 mvt type Parent item has 122 mvt but child items has 544 mvt type(Reversak of 543)
So you can camcel the document MBST or send back material by 122 mvt (pareent +chield-544) by MBRL
In Document geenrated it will show 122 of Parent & 544 of Chield items.
I hope you are clear.
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Sujit -
Hi All,
In Subcontracting process first we are sending the raw material to sub contracting vendor with Sub Contracting Challan. Now subcontrating Vendor return the raw material due to quality problem. So, please suggest what process we have to do in SAP ? Because we have to closed the sub contracting challan and stock of raw material should come under unrestricted use.
Thanks in Advance.....
SanjayHI
Take back material with MB1B mov type 542. Reconcile the challan wrt this 542 mov type document.
And then complete the challan also.
Your Subcon PO is still open and u can send fresh material to vendor with MB1B 541 and make a new challan and then complete ur process.
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Regarding Sub-contracting Scenario
Hi Experts,
I had scenario in Sub-contracting, Im purchasing the raw material from X vendor and send the same material to the sub-contracting vendor- Y for drilling the material. After receiving the Main Component (material) from the sub-contracting vendor- Y, we are doing the quality check. Now the material is in damaged, I want to send the damaged material to the X vendor (ie. To the purchasing vendor). How to do that?
Regards,
SudhakarHi Sudhakar,
What's your opinion about this:
1.
You received materialB from vendor 'Y'. It is damaged > you can send back the goods via MVT 122 (component materialA that is purchased from vendor 'X' will go back by MVT 544 to vendor 'Y').
2.
Then you can book materialA in MB1B from vendor'Y' to your plant and then from your site you can make a return delivery (MVT 122 refering to the original PO / or MVT 161 w/o PO ref.) and send the goods to your vendor.
3.
Then you can get materialA of good quality from vendor 'X' and send it to vendor 'Y' and get materialB of good quality from vendor 'Y'
This process is when the damage is due to vendor 'X'. If the damage was made by vendor 'Y' you can apply process 1 and scrap materialA from the special stock of vendor 'Y' and ask them to pay for the damaged goods (you have to negotiate how to handle this issue).
What is the real physical process? We should know it to be able to give a good hint.
BR
Csaba -
my client running fg sub contracting (electro plating )cycle through the MRP
after return from vendor with mvt type 105 (543) i check document list with MB51. i found following g/l account effects :
SFG consumption for sub contract account = 602026
Gr/IR Clearing Account = 164335
SFG-inventory account = 323055
for sub contract account = 602130
Inventory account = 320010
Costs of goods mfg = 602200
but if do whole sub contracting cycle without MRP i can see effect in following G/L a/C:
Manual Cycle .
Inventory account = 320010
Gr/IR Clearing Account = 164335
Price Differance Account = 602155
change in stock = 603010
Sub Contract expense = 603000
SFG-inventory account = 323055
SFG consumption for sub contract account = 602026
my question is why this differance comes ?
if i want gl accounts hit by manual process in MRP process what changes to be made ?Hi,
Price diffrences arise during valuation @ GR if the material is managed at standard price in MMR.
Also there is one more setting in customizing that for a plant that price differences should or not be posted during GR.
spro-IMGMMInv MGmtGR--price differences for subcontracting at GR
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Deepak. -
my client running fg sub contracting (electro plating )cycle through the MRP
after return from vendor with mvt type 105 (543) i check document list with MB51. i found following g/l account effects :
SFG consumption for sub contract account = 602026
Gr/IR Clearing Account = 164335
SFG-inventory account = 323055
for sub contract account = 602130
Inventory account = 320010
Costs of goods mfg = 602200
but if do whole sub contracting cycle without MRP i can see effect in following G/L a/C:
Manual Cycle .
Inventory account = 320010
Gr/IR Clearing Account = 164335
Price Differance Account = 602155
change in stock = 603010
Sub Contract expense = 603000
SFG-inventory account = 323055
SFG consumption for sub contract account = 602026
my question is why this differance comes ?
if i want gl accounts hit by manual process in MRP process what changes to be made ?Hi
Kindly check with the following:
In customizing for that plant price differences should or not be posted during GR.
SPRO->IMG>MM>Inv MGmt>GR-->price differences for subcontracting at GR
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Goods receipt through Inbound delivery for Sub-Contracting Purchase order
Hi
I am trying to do goods receipt for the inbound delivery /shipping notification created for a sub -contracting Purchase order. The Finished product and the component part are batch managed, When I try to perform PGR in VL32N , I am getting a blank screen as error message and Goods receipt is not getting triggered . I checked for OSS note and found 645119 close to my issue but not an exact match . We are in ECC 6.0 with EHP 4. Can some one clarify whether it is possible to post GR through inbound delivery for a Subcon Purchase order .
Thanks in advance for your immediate response.
with regards,
Joseph Anand BHi, The issue may be due to this - the component is batch managed but the batch data is blank in the component list of the Purchase Order Item. Or a batch is maintained in the PO item component list but the stock for the same batch is not available with Vendor, i.e. stock with some other batch may be available.
In a receipt for Sub-cont PO, 101 happens for FG and 543 happens for component. But there is no option to provide the component details in a delivery. So in standard system, when 101 happens via a delivery, 543 will be posted in the background. So any error in posting 543 will result in a blank screen without any error message.
You can fix this by maintaining correct batch in the PO component list.
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Characteristics of Item Cate. u2013 u201CLu201D(Sub-Contracting) (Q2-4)
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When I displayed the Characteristics of Item Cate. u2013 u201CLu201D (Sub-Contracting) through "IMG - MM - Purchasing - Define External Representation of Item Cate.", I found that a checkbox - "PO Item Linked" was checked in "Invoice Receipt", meaning that invoice must be processed for PO. If I create a "Return" or "Free Goods" item using this Item Cate., is the invoice also required to process ?
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KH FongHi,
When you are doing subcontracting process you can not have "returns" indicator selecetd in PO with item category "L".
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Shortage qty - sub-contract process
hi,
In sub-contract process:
Vendor suppose to return - 10 qty
but, we received only 8 qty.
Vendor has accepted to pay For shortage 2 qty.
1. How to address the above scenario?. (exciseable material)
reg
mrsDear ,
case 1) IF GR NOT DONE YET:
do the GR and , at the time of GR increase consumption qty.from 8 to 10.
that means u have comsumed more than required .then raise the debit note for loss.
reconcille the challan by the same GR doc and complete the same.
Case 2)IF GR is allready done.
reconcille the challan by GR document,then do 542 for remainning 2 qty.re4concille the challan by dat document.and complete the challan.
then take a physical inventory of that material for perticular storage location and post the negative difference .syatem showa that as a loss for u then raise the debit note for the same.
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MTO Discrete Manufacturing with multiple plants and sub-contracting
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I am facing a problem, pl. help me out.
My Scenario is as follows:
I am having 4 plants with Make-To-Order Discrete Manufacturing scenarieo .
Suppose to manufacture a particular Product , there are 10 operations.The first 4 operations are carried out in Plant A, 5th and 6th carried out in Plant B, Operations 7 is Sub-contracted to a Vendor. After the job-work from Vendor, the job returns back to Plant A and the remaining operations are carried out in Plant A.
The whole scenario has to be mapped into SAP. Please guide me from the very beginning( Masterdata maintenance). Also, what shud be the MRP( Single-item multilevel or anything else)
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SoumyenduHi Sadhukhan,
For external processing in different company code, u need to specify PP02 in the routing for external vendor. In PP02 control key indicator must be set in external opn. Before that create purchase info record. Enter subcontract info record in routing. After running MRP , convert the PR to PO. Send the material by MB1B by 541 mvt. Receive the material by MIGO by 101 mvt.
Reward if useful.
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