Sub Contracting scenario - Material Lost

Hi Experts,
Material is issued to the vendor against the sub-contracting purchase order. The material is lost in the vendor premises.
How to deal with this scenario
Thanks
Tanvi Sunil

Hi,
I think you should negotiate with the vendor who covers the loss - if your vendor pays they can issue a credit memo.
As for stock adjustment you should consider:
- MB1A / MIGO + 551O
- physical inventory
- take components back to your site by MB1B + 542 and scrap it (MB1A + 551) or adjust stock level via physical inventory project
Regards,
Csaba

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for accounting u need to test it your self . if you feel that 2nd line item is not required then u can skip this one.
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I think this process was earlier called as 52 A operations.
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pl explain the scenario in detail - step by step (with T,codes) if u know the solution.
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In plant A for material M1 (finish) define with special procurement key (stock transfer from plant B) in MRP2 view from plant B. (If it is MRP relevant)
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What's your opinion about this:
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