Sub Contractor challan Reconcillation after subsequent adjustment

Dear Friends,
I am sending 1 kg of material to receive back 1kg of material the sub contractor uses .90 kg to make 1 kg of the reqd material. So I do subsequent adjustment after MIGO for under consumption of 0.10kg
Now after doing subsequent adjustment, while doing reconciliation in J1ifq should I change the assigned qty to 0.90 kg ( as there was under consumption of 0.1kg ), I tried changing the assigned qty to 0.900 but its showing me the message u201Cmaterial xxx is not fully assigned, short by 0.10 kg& itu2019s not letting me reconcile.
Kindly suggest the correct procedure for reconcillation & sub con challan completion after subsequent adjustment.
Thanks

Hello,
Please check the process supported by SAP for
subcontracting with and without duty payment in the following link:
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp60/helpdata/en/09/ebf138cdd78a4be10000000
a114084/frameset.htm
It is quite helpful for challan reconciliation issues.
Keep in mid that for challan subcontrating you should perform the
following steps:
1) Create Sub contracting PO
2) Create MB1B ( 541 mov)
3) Create Challan from J1IF01 with reference to material document
4) Create GR using MIGO sub cont PO. ( faced error )
Please be ensure that the following note is already applied in your
system:
1423896 - The subcontracting challan validation - MIGO
Please chek if you have set the movement types
541 and 541 O as relevant for creation of challan. Also, you ha
ve to set the number of line items in a challan to be only 1 in the customi
sing node 'subcontracting attributes'.
So the system will create 1 challan per line of the transfer posting
document as it finds both 541 and 541 O movements.
If you do not want the system to create challan for 541 as is normal
then remove the movement type 541 from movement type group 0001. Also
remove 101 from movement type group 0002.
I hope it helps you.
Regards,
Fábio Almeida
Mm Consultant

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1. how to maintain this excess qty with challan?
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Friends,
Scenario.
Finished Goods : X
Components: X1 and X2
Received X from subcontractor After assembly.
101 Mvt for X
543 Mvt for X1 and X2
X is recived in Quality stock and put them in blocked stock and later rejected and sent back to Subcontracting Vendor with 122 Movement.
X: Mvt: 122
Now my question is what will happen to component X1 and X2 which logically should effected with 544 Movement. It says insufficient stock and it says the value is negative..
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