Subclips different in 5?

I'm new to FCP 5. When I make subclips it seems to place the clip into it's own sequence, instead of making a subclip the way earlier versions do. How do I make a normal subclip?

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Subclips different on export

I taped a conference with 2 cams. I synced the cameras and let them run the full hour. Cam 2 I split into subclips for cutaways on V2.
All is good in the timeline but after export the V2 cutaways are not the part of the tape I subclipped. Not even close. It's a completely different part of the tape.
Anyone seen this before?

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Question: search/find function and markers?

FCPv1 through 7 user, now being forced to decide between Avid and Premiere, so I have tons of questions, but I will start with this:
I need to search through my marker comments, but I notice the find function doesn't work while in the marker tab, nor does it give options to search through marker comments while in the project tab. Is this possible?
It was also be preferable that it brings up every instance of the keyword, and not just the next instance, I am not seeing that as an option either...
I am hoping I am just missing something and you guys can help clear it up for me.
Here is my workflow incase it will help answer the question:
I have a video clip, and I have to transcribe every single line of dialogue in the clip.
I need to be able to search these dialogue lines.
Boris soundbite does not work for this, as I need to see what is said, not find where certain things are said.
Using subclips was my original Final Cut Pro work flow, but premiere handles subclips differently, and match framing only matches back to subclips, and not source material like I need it to. Unless of course there's a setting that makes subclips match frame to source material that I am missing, I dug around and looked for one but didn't see anything.
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StevenPhares wrote:
I need to search through my marker comments, but I notice the find function doesn't work while in the marker tab, nor does it give options to search through marker comments while in the project tab. Is this possible?
It was also be preferable that it brings up every instance of the keyword, and not just the next instance, I am not seeing that as an option either...
I am hoping I am just missing something and you guys can help clear it up for me.
Markers in Premiere Pro CS Next will have this functionality. I just checked it out. Sorry that this function was not included in Premiere Pro CS6.

Is it possible to export/import subclips between 2 different computers?

hi,
i am collaborating on a project with someone, we need to export/import subclips between 2 different computers. is thisa possible, and how?

Hi there,
I'm the other collaborator on a project with Jelly Belly. As I am coming from using abode premier pro to final cut, the concept of sub clips is new to me.
We are planning on capturing close to 50 mini dv tapes, in as far as possible complete master clips for each tape. Once this is complete we will have all master clips copied to two identical 1T external hard drives.
Then the plan is to break the master clips down into sub clips in order to thin out and better organize the footage. To speed this process up we plan to do this concurrently on two separate computers, at this stage both running Final Cut Express 4. Once this is done is it possible to import those sub clips into a new project? At this point we will most likely running Final Cut Studio 3.
If so then how would one go about doing it?
Thanks for any further advise on this.

After update all of my subclips have different in and out points

After updating Premiere Pro CC all of my subclips now have different in- and out points. It´s hundreds of subclips and they have nothing to do with how they´ve been before. The In-Point is always the In-Point from the original Master-Clip, the out-Point seems to be totally random. So I can´t work with them at all. Can I go back to the previous version or can I get my subclips back somehow? THANKS!!

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Subclips have different length in Canvas than in Quicktime Export

My subclips show perferctly fine and correct in the canvas, but if I export them to Quicktime (whatever format) the in and out points are not as specified and scenes are shown that shouldn't be part of the video.
What can be the reason?
Is this a bug? Do I miss something to configure?
Help welcome.

After all other codecs show only a different delay, which you don't notice on short pieces. The in and out points are still not handled correct, even with Apple ProRes (HQ) Codec.
I noticed the wrong in/out export again with a 7 minute source (nearly 6 GB - recoded with Compressor, original file created by recording World of Warcraft scenes), where I wanted to cut a little sequence of 16 seconds (at minute 4:16). Set in and out points in viewer and created subclip.
Subclip starts about 3 seconds later than defined if exporting or showing in browser - in viewer it shows correct.
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Using subclips on two different machines

Hello,
I'm using FCP for a project on my MacPro at home, and I want to edit some simpler scenes from the same project on my laptop (w/ an ext. firewire drive) when I'm away.
The only problem I'm encountering is that I originally imported all my DV footage using Capture Now and made subclips after the fact (using DV Start/Stop Detect) and renamed those subclips later. I'm able to work with the source clips with no problem... but how can I retain all the subclip info (and edit using the subclips, not the masters)?
I tried to open a copy of my FCP Project File on the laptop but got an error.
Also, I'm trying to copy over only a few scenes' worth of footage at a time.
Thanks much for any suggestions,
Sean

Hi Shane --
Yes, they were installed from the same disk (I'm pretty sure I did a software update on both but will double-check tonight).
When I try to Import the project, it is grayed out in the 'Choose a File' window. If I double-click the project from the Finder, I get "General Error (41)" -- which is a different one than when I tried it yesterday (when I had no other sequences active).
Also something weird today -- although the edited footage is all linked fine & plays properly, in the timeline most of the footage shows the red "Media Offline" frame for its thumbnail.
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Many thanks!!
-- Sean

Unable to Subclip HDV footage

I'm having trouble subclipping HDV footage. When I match frame the footage in the timeline the make subclip option is greyed out. Anybody have any idea why FCP is doing this? Thanks in advance
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I just got off the phone with a friend of mine who was having the same problem as you. Although you say the camera playback is set properly, please recheck this. go into your camera's playback menu>menu>standard set>VCR HDV/DV. Unplug your firewire from the camera. Make sure camera is set to HDV NOT auto. replace firewire cable. Now open FCP. Go in Audio/video settings>A/V devices (farthest tab on right). In box for playback edit to tape different from video output (make sure it's checked) mirrored (checked) Video playback 1080i50, Audio HDV. I hope that works now.
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Any way to take a subclip & generate a new original file of subclip's length without recapturing?

When I CAPTURE a large length of footage (say 30 mins) and then I import this footage into my Pr Pro CS 5 Project, I will typically extract a section of that footage into the timeline using the Source Monitor. I will throughout an edit end up using multiple portions (subclips) of this original footage. Sometimes I will make specific subliclips, sometimes I will just use different instances in the timeline of different lengths.
What I would like to be able to easily do is to then create a new original file for each edited clip so that each piece is not referencing the same full portion of the originally captured footage. I am trying to create smaller files that are referenced.
In other words, I guess you could say that I am looking for a way to "capture" in reverse? Rather than having to go back and recapture just that portion that is now edited as a subclip, is there any way to do this easily in reverse?
It would be ideal if there was a command that took your subclip and simply created a new original file that was now simply the length of your final edited clip or piece in the time line.
I am trying to reduce the size of the original file having to be referenced by Premiere Pro each time to speed up the editing process, but without having to go back and redo the capturing process.

You didn't indicate what sort of footage you're working with, but depending on what it is, you could use the Project Manager to create trimmed clips and a new project file that references those trimmed clips. You could then delete the original media after confirming that what you wanted has actually happened.
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To subclip or not to subclip, that is the question?

Hello All,
As I continue to gain experience with FCP, one of the consistent challenges I run into is having created subclip of my master footage that is pretty close to what I want in my final production. The net result of that is when I go to add transitions, or work with the View Edit feature, I don't have much in the way of extra footage with which to work.
I believe one choice I have is to create my productions with cuts taken from the master, and then added to the timeline. The result will be (in the browser) many copies of the master, but simply containing different in and out points.
My question is whether this is a problem. I suppose I've avoided this approach as it seemed like it was less precise, and took up more disc space (I know, probably not a real issue, but coming from a time when hard drives were 20 MB, I'm stuck with an old mindset).
Your thoughts would be appreciated.
DG

I don't see any rational argument against using Subclips.
*1) On Roll Edits and Transitions*
If you make the In an Out points for your subclips at the same place you would put the In and Out points when capturing from tape, the created clips will be the exact same length and the ONLY way you will have the option to extend the edits past where the take ends is if you had Subclipped and then Remove Subclip Limits.
*2) On Organization*
FCP allows you to organize and name Subclips in the exact same manner as Master Clips; if the organization of Subclips is jumbled and confusing it is because you are not using the same method of organization for the Subclips as you would for Master Clips... which there is no logical reason not to. Treat them as the same thing.
*3) Why I Subclip*
I'm working on a short narrative film right now with an assistant editor whom I have never worked with. I had captured, logged, and organized the Master Tapes before handing the project off to my assistant. When I got the project back from him I quickly noticed he did a half-assed job and I had to go through the daily continuity log with the Master Tapes making sure I subclipped the takes he had missed. This job was much easier to do from FCP and the captured Master Tapes rather than having to rent a deck and go though the actual Tapes.
*4) How I Subclip*
The best way I have found to make Subclips is not the In and Out method but rather using Markers. Simply open a Master Tape Clip and put a Marker at the beginning of every take. Next to the Master Tape Clips in the Browser will be a grey arrow that when expanded shows all the Markers made in that Clip. Select the Markers in the Browser and go to Modify > Make Subclip (⌘U) and BAM you're whole tape is Subclipped. The Markers will stay on the Master Tape Clips after you make the Subclips so if you ever need to resubclip a take, change the length of a subclip, or anything of the sort it is extremely easy.
That's why I would suggest using Subclips rather than not. The only reason I could see not wanting to Subclip is if you have limited Hard Drive space and you only plan on capturing printed takes.

Can't add markers to SOME subclips but can add them to others

Hi. First time poster, I hope I'm not accidentally posting this in the wrong section. I have scoured the discussions for this problem or I wouldn't dry your eyeballs with this.
Suddenly, right in the middle of editing, I can no longer ADD markers to some specific clips in my bin. It is the oddest thing. In anticipation of questions, I'll give every detail I can conjure, I hope I'm not being too verbose but it's a very puzzling situation.
- The "problem" subclips, to which I can suddenly no longer add markers, at one point had completely normal marker functionality. There's pre-existing markers on these clips that are now no longer editable (with the M or ` key), and every marker menu item under mark -> markers is greyed out, EXCEPT for "add" and "delete all..." neither of which work on the problem clips anyway. These are all functions that work as usual on the non-problem clips.
- Within the problem subclips, I can still navigate to the next and previous markers, with shortcut keys and menu commands. But when I hit M on a marker in a problem clip, nothing happens. And when I hit M in a "blank" space in a problem clip, again, nothing happens, i.e., no marker is added. Nor do the menu commands pertaining to markers function.
- the clips in question are subclips, but so are the clips that have absolutely no problem with marker functionality.
- the clips not having this problem, which outnumber those that do, are not only in the same format, same media, same compression, from the same tape, captured in the same session and on the same drive but are even from the same "master clip" as their problematic siblings.
- the master clip in question has normal marker functionality.
- brand new subclips from that master clip have normal marker functionality, even if their in and out points are identical to the problem subclips...but then again, that's not surprising, since the old ones had "normal births," too.
- if I copy and paste the problem subclips in the bin, the copies have the same problem.
- if I "duplicate as new master clip" the problem subclips in the bin, the duplicates have the same problem.
- I can still edit the markers on the problem clips by right-clicking the drop-down list of markers IN THE BIN and selecting "edit." I can also delete them there by selecting them in the bin and hitting the delete key.
- doing so does not enable me to add more markers. Which reminds me:
- I am not doing something weird with markers - even if there was a quota on markers, I imagine I'm nowhere near it. it just seems like I'm the "crazy marker guy" because you're reading six pages of me talking about markers. I'm not the crazy marker guy. I'm an ordinary man with a crazy marker problem. I use markers the way you do. I mark the beginnings of takes and noteworthy reactions, etc....there's maybe an average of 15 note markers in each subclip, but plenty of "functioning" subclips from the same master clip have more markers than the problem ones.
- yeah, I quit and restarted FCP. And my computer. Yeah, my "M" key works (look how many times I've used it), My mouse is plugged in, I combed my hair, my software's not stolen, I purged my render files and, believe it or not, I only had one coffee this morning.
- I haven't been working with FCP so long that I can say I have or haven't had this problem with non subclips. I've only done a couple projects with FCP so far...this one is not unusual in comparison, but this is definitely the first problem I've ever had with FCP.
- If you have read this far, you are hero not just to me, but to all of humanity.
- if you have the solution, you are a God or I am an idiot, I am praying for either to be the case and I'm not picky. Seriously, thanks in advance to anyone that wastes their brain on this.

Figure I may as well update this thread with the different things I try. I know this makes for compelling reading and I don't want to deny you the story.
- I deleted the Final Cut plist file from the preferences folder, which not only had no impact on the problem, but no apparent impact on Final Cut, which is weird, but, one riddle at a time.
- I went through my autosave vault on the scratch disk, which deepened the confusion for me: each of the three problem-clips had a specific time before and after they became frozen to marker activity. I loaded the autosaved project from 11 am, for instance, and apparently, at that time, the most recent clip to become marker-locked was still working fine, but the other two weren't. A few hours earlier than that, only one of them had the problem, and at about 6:30 this morning, the problem didn't exist.
An important thing to note is that the order in which these clips became marker-locked follows the order in which I went through them, marked their takes and moved on.
I didn't notice the problem with any of them until much later - when a creative shift prompted me to add some new marks, at which point I realized that for three of my clips, I couldn't.
So, if this problem is being triggered by me, it's happening not during actual marking (I would have noticed), but during the things I do with marked clips, namely shuttling through them with the JKL keys, jumping to each of the markers, setting in and out points and inserting them into the timeline.
Is there some key it's possible for a less than attentive, sleep deprived, FCP newbie to hit, during that activity, that "locks" the current clip to the addition and adjustment of markers? As sensitive as my ego is, I really want this to be my fault so I can learn the problem and avoid it forever. I don't want to think there's some supernatural time bomb glitch in the one copy of FCP I bought that causes random clips to slowly dry like cement after which they can never be marked again.

Help ! TC changes on subclip export

Hello:
I import all of my DV footage into FCP 5.1.2 by using the 'Capture Now' option (DV NTSC Easy Setup) to capture the entire tape and then use the 'Detect DV Start/Stop' function to mark the master clip, then make subclips from that.
The problem starts when I select all subclips and do 'Batch Export'.
It exports all of the subclips just fine, however it CHANGES the Time Code of exported material by several frames starting from the second subclip in the batch. It does exactly the same TC shift if I do export individual subclip.
It does not alter the content of the video. Both subclips and exported files are the same in terms of real video playback. It just changes the "Media Start" on exported files which makes it impossible to recapture the video in future as a timecode is wrong.
What am I doing wrong ? How can I fix it ? Please advise.
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Sure... 10.4.8 and 7.1.3
I start thinking that I found a serious BUG in FCP.
Did more testing and found what is going on -- still do not know why. Aparently FCP uses Non Drop Frame method for setting the Media Start when you exporting subclips.
Simple Test:
1. Create a brand new project
2. Import clip (IMPORTANT: NTSC 29.97 Video Frame Rate)
3. Make sure that the Reel is not empty (Item Properties - Capture). If it is put something there
4. Open your clip in the Viewer.
5. Set In and Out points (IMPORTANT: In Point should be at least at 00:02:00;02 TC)
6. Make a subclip (Cmd-U)
7. Export it
8. Import it back and compare Media Start for Exported file and Sublip
For me they are different:
Subclip: 00:02:00;02
Exported clip: 00:01:00;58
4 frames difference which makes me think that FCP used Non Drop Frame method to set a Media Start for exported file.
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Video A is 1 minute in length. I edited a long video, marked this footage as an Independent Clip, pulled it to the browser bin, then exported as H.264. The file size came out 8MB, nice and small. The source is DV, 4:3, recorded on a cheap 1-chip.
Video B is 5 minutes in length. I split a long video into subclips based on markers set by "DV Start/Stop Detect". One of these subclips I edited further, down to 5 minutes. I added an AV fade-in at the start, fade-out at the end. It's the only thing in that sequence. When I export the sequence as H.264, the file size comes out to 1GB. All variations I try on export quality and codec results in that size or larger. The source material is DV, 16:9, recorded on a Canon XH-A1 (3-chip).
I'm trying to track down what's causing such a huge disparity. Is it the quality of the source footage? The aspect ratio? The difference between Independent Clips and Sub-Clips?
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Hello,
Try MPEG 4 instead of H.264 and I think you'll end up with a smaller file size. When you control click on your sequence and select Quicktime Conversion - click on settings and try adjusting the frame size too and see if that helps to make the file smaller. You can also play with quality.
I cannot answer why there's such a huge difference between those two files even though one is only four minutes longer than the other. As far as sub versus independent clips, I cannot say anything about that either.
Good Luck,
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I have a library of hundreds of subclips which I use regularly to create mood videos for clients, but finding a useful way to collate and organise them has been difficult, as I want to be able to assign multiple tags for each video. For example, a video may contain a girl framed in a close up shot, holding a camera, smiling, in black and white, shot at 60 fps. Keeping all this data easily accesible to sort through is difficult. Bridge is probably the obvious choice for this due to its ability for metatagging, but I find the Premiere environment much easier because of the hoverscrub feature and the ease of dropping it into a rough sequence. Hoverscrub in Premiere makes previewing videos effortless - Bridge's preview window is a little more difficult to use.
I guess the ideal workflow would be to be able to either save metadata to subclips when you export them in Premiere and have the ability to search through metadata filters in the Media Browser of exported clips, or for Bridge to adopt Hoverscrub. I've explored Prelude, but it is really only useful for ingesting footage and roughing a sequence for refinement in Premiere, rather than subclipping and tagging with metadata.
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Looked at the clip for hoverscrub and read further explanation. It looks like an interesting way to view video. But think you are correct when you said Bridge is a photo browser, as it was made to reflect needs of Photoshop. While video has been grudgenly added to Bridge and Photoshop, in my opinion, it will always be a token effort. There is something to be said for not going to the universal program that does it all. It usually does not do anything real well.
It appears you can add keywords in PP and view them in Bridge. Here is a copy of a blog to explain how.
The short answer is:
In your Preferences > Media Preferences
choose the checkbox for
"Enable Clip And XMP Metadata Linking Check this box to link clip metadata to XMP metadata, so that changing one changes the other."
This is from:
http://help.adobe.com/en_US/premierepro/cs/using/WSAB1EDD0E-ADC2-4a10-B399-...
Not able to test this now....but you might need to put your keywords in to fields that are common to both XMP data and PPro Project data.
Remember there is some distinction about a FILE that lives in the file system versus how that file is used as a CLIP inside a PPro project. (for example having multiple differently trimmed instances of the same FILE as different CLIPS.) So in some cases in the Project Panel there is metatdata that distinct to the PPro project versus that which is common to the File asset itself.
But as far as creating searchable keywords common to PPro and Bridge, this should be able to be achieved pretty painlessly.

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