Subcontract returns to vendor

Dear all Guru,
I am facing the problams in returning(for rejection) material to subcontract vendor.
so when I am receiving subcontract material processed material is inwarded by 101 and 543 for consumption
and inventory for HALB matl is increasing and raw matl is reducing...this is happening as per required.
but when i am making return delivery for the GR no
then by 122 mov type HALB matl inventory is reduced and 546 mov type for RAW matl but the stock is reducing
Pl suggest in return delivery raw mateial speacial stock need to be increased instead of decrease.
regards,
Vimlesh

Hi,
i have the same problem using MIGO, if i don't explode the components the result is correct (for the component type movement 544 + O) but, if you explode the component the result is wrong (for the component type movement 546 - O ) and the stock is bad.
Solutions ?
thank you
regards
Andrea

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Currently the business use two different process for sending parts to Vendor.
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