Subcontracting challan Reconcilation

Dear All,
We have got a PO [subcontracting] of multiple line items . we make 57F4challan and issue the materials thru 541 mvt. we make GR for individual line items.
when we make the GR for the first line item with reference to challan and reconcile the challan through J1IFQ it orks fine.
But when we make the GR for the second line item with reference to the same challan it throws an error message saying that the challan is aldready reconciled and it does not allow me to further refer that challan for GR.
Plz help.
Rahul Bhat.

HI,
Because when u issue the materials to the subcontractor thro 57F4 u issue them all in a single challan.
When the GR is done with respect to single item with reference to the same subcontracting challan it considers only 1 item ( as the Gr is done for the same item)
You cannot give the same reference again for the second item.
If you do the GR for all the items against the subcontracting challan then it may allow you to reconcile the challan further thus keeping it open till all the items are done.
PLease check the same.
Regards,
Prasanna
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issue: while reconciling a challan im getting a msg saying that some qty of the material is not assigned fully.
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1.From the SAP Easy Access screen, choose Indirect Taxes -.>Procurement -> Subcontracting -> Subcontracting Challans -> Reconcile Quantity.
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